1 00:00:24,910 --> 00:00:18,990 [Music] 2 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:24,920 you're in the para cast the gold 3 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:29,050 standard of paranormal radio now here's 4 00:00:37,420 --> 00:00:35,210 Gina Steinberg with Gina and Chris 5 00:00:41,170 --> 00:00:37,430 you're back on the power cast but Chris 6 00:00:43,480 --> 00:00:41,180 is a remote person today and not because 7 00:00:46,630 --> 00:00:43,490 of his personality being remote it's 8 00:00:48,310 --> 00:00:46,640 because he is not at his studio in 9 00:00:50,020 --> 00:00:48,320 Arizona right now you're in California 10 00:00:52,510 --> 00:00:50,030 sunny California 11 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:52,520 yeah real sunny what you should see my 12 00:00:57,850 --> 00:00:54,890 face gene I got burnt out on the water 13 00:01:01,569 --> 00:00:57,860 oh my goodness we went out on Ron's boat 14 00:01:04,479 --> 00:01:01,579 and I just didn't realize how strong the 15 00:01:07,780 --> 00:01:04,489 Sun was bouncing off the ocean you know 16 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:07,790 the cloudless sky and man did I get a 17 00:01:12,460 --> 00:01:10,130 sunburn now I'm all peeling I'm trying 18 00:01:14,559 --> 00:01:12,470 not to peel on his desk hey this is your 19 00:01:17,230 --> 00:01:14,569 as yet unannounced guest but I have an 20 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:17,240 urgent question if Chris is remote and I 21 00:01:23,139 --> 00:01:18,170 can see him 22 00:01:26,529 --> 00:01:23,149 does that mean I'm remote viewing ladies 23 00:01:27,879 --> 00:01:26,539 and gentlemen that's Ron James and he is 24 00:01:30,279 --> 00:01:27,889 something or other we haven't really 25 00:01:32,709 --> 00:01:30,289 identified him yet but he sometimes is 26 00:01:35,440 --> 00:01:32,719 known as a conscious media producer 27 00:01:40,870 --> 00:01:35,450 sometimes right other times we call him 28 00:01:43,120 --> 00:01:40,880 an unconscious media producer I think 29 00:01:44,889 --> 00:01:43,130 more people have said that yeah or more 30 00:01:46,660 --> 00:01:44,899 people want you to be unconscious but 31 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:46,670 then yeah you'd be just like the US 32 00:01:51,459 --> 00:01:49,130 Congress where most people think the US 33 00:01:55,029 --> 00:01:51,469 Congress is unconscious or should be 34 00:01:57,519 --> 00:01:55,039 lured rendered unconscious maybe oh well 35 00:02:00,519 --> 00:01:57,529 you know they're too busy passing bills 36 00:02:02,230 --> 00:02:00,529 that don't do anything yeah we know I 37 00:02:04,330 --> 00:02:02,240 get into politics though because we 38 00:02:07,209 --> 00:02:04,340 never discussed politics on the power 39 00:02:09,820 --> 00:02:07,219 cast except of course this is once again 40 00:02:11,980 --> 00:02:09,830 our latest NSA edition because we know 41 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:11,990 the NSA is watching and listening to us 42 00:02:17,020 --> 00:02:14,330 even though this is only an audio hookup 43 00:02:19,390 --> 00:02:17,030 they secretly turn on the cameras from 44 00:02:22,510 --> 00:02:19,400 their computers but seriously speaking 45 00:02:24,490 --> 00:02:22,520 want to talk over a few things here 46 00:02:27,070 --> 00:02:24,500 and one of the issues that we always 47 00:02:28,960 --> 00:02:27,080 raised here is how people get interested 48 00:02:30,580 --> 00:02:28,970 in the paranormal and I've long 49 00:02:33,820 --> 00:02:30,590 maintained that I've really never had 50 00:02:36,190 --> 00:02:33,830 any paranormal experiences but I guess 51 00:02:36,820 --> 00:02:36,200 that's only semi true I'll give you an 52 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:36,830 example 53 00:02:43,630 --> 00:02:42,410 back in the 1970s early 1970s my first 54 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:43,640 wife and I are together 55 00:02:48,400 --> 00:02:46,370 her name's Geneva Hagen now and you've 56 00:02:50,710 --> 00:02:48,410 heard around the show and she wakes you 57 00:02:52,210 --> 00:02:50,720 up one night and says I just saw a water 58 00:02:56,230 --> 00:02:52,220 elemental you know what a water 59 00:02:57,910 --> 00:02:56,240 elemental is Chris he's swimming yes I 60 00:03:00,790 --> 00:02:57,920 do know what a water elemental is Jeanne 61 00:03:02,680 --> 00:03:00,800 okay so I saw something in the distance 62 00:03:03,700 --> 00:03:02,690 I didn't have my glasses on or my 63 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:03,710 contact lenses 64 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:06,890 so I said okay that's experience number 65 00:03:11,290 --> 00:03:09,050 one experience number two we did see a 66 00:03:13,900 --> 00:03:11,300 light in the sky that made a couple of 67 00:03:15,430 --> 00:03:13,910 rapid manoeuvres before it disappeared 68 00:03:18,730 --> 00:03:15,440 that's back in the late 60s 69 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:18,740 it's my one and only UFO sighting if it 70 00:03:23,410 --> 00:03:20,810 doesn't sound very detailed that's all 71 00:03:27,070 --> 00:03:23,420 it is a white mist on you maybe what you 72 00:03:30,310 --> 00:03:27,080 saw in the water was at kelpy or 73 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:30,320 possibly a Mersenne on the Discovery 74 00:03:35,290 --> 00:03:32,170 Channel they had mermaid the body 75 00:03:37,090 --> 00:03:35,300 discovered and it was a whole docudrama 76 00:03:40,270 --> 00:03:37,100 with fake people playing even faker 77 00:03:42,550 --> 00:03:40,280 people and they purported the existence 78 00:03:44,290 --> 00:03:42,560 of underwater skunk apes that are more 79 00:03:46,750 --> 00:03:44,300 elusive than Bigfoot and live in kelp 80 00:03:50,110 --> 00:03:46,760 forests deeper than anything in the 81 00:03:52,150 --> 00:03:50,120 state of New Mexico Wow it is a remote 82 00:03:54,580 --> 00:03:52,160 possibility that we have been shadowed 83 00:03:57,430 --> 00:03:54,590 in our evolutionary process by our 84 00:04:00,640 --> 00:03:57,440 aquatic tale-bearing but possibly 85 00:04:03,190 --> 00:04:00,650 breathable counterparts under the ocean 86 00:04:05,470 --> 00:04:03,200 yes I just wanted to what do they lay 87 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:05,480 eggs and then the the male swims over 88 00:04:10,900 --> 00:04:08,090 the top and exude some sort of like 89 00:04:12,610 --> 00:04:10,910 sperm like no that would be fishy these 90 00:04:14,260 --> 00:04:12,620 are supposed to be underwater or skunk 91 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:14,270 mammal things so even though they held 92 00:04:18,130 --> 00:04:15,050 its tails 93 00:04:20,860 --> 00:04:18,140 underwater big feet basically yeah they 94 00:04:22,840 --> 00:04:20,870 had this whole theory about how man at 95 00:04:24,220 --> 00:04:22,850 some point you know was fishing out on 96 00:04:25,630 --> 00:04:24,230 the ocean and everything in a bunch of 97 00:04:28,180 --> 00:04:25,640 them jumped in and never came back 98 00:04:30,370 --> 00:04:28,190 and then theoretically they both tails 99 00:04:31,780 --> 00:04:30,380 and fins and and now they're out there 100 00:04:33,070 --> 00:04:31,790 and the Navy knows about it they're 101 00:04:34,840 --> 00:04:33,080 trying to train them and use it as a 102 00:04:35,309 --> 00:04:34,850 super-secret weapon against Chinese 103 00:04:37,990 --> 00:04:35,319 nuclear 104 00:04:39,430 --> 00:04:38,000 submarine yeah in order for them to 105 00:04:41,170 --> 00:04:39,440 breed they would have to have genitalia 106 00:04:43,420 --> 00:04:41,180 and they all they have is a tangle so 107 00:04:44,890 --> 00:04:43,430 I'm confused I have a feeling that you 108 00:04:47,020 --> 00:04:44,900 know evolution came up with some clever 109 00:04:48,790 --> 00:04:47,030 way to put little thingies and thing 110 00:04:51,999 --> 00:04:48,800 it's in the little tail sections and 111 00:04:53,890 --> 00:04:52,009 just kind of walk up and go to it and 112 00:04:56,200 --> 00:04:53,900 it's not like laying eggs it's probably 113 00:04:58,089 --> 00:04:56,210 okay like whales do it I mean well 114 00:05:00,790 --> 00:04:58,099 stuffed tails they still have wieners 115 00:05:03,070 --> 00:05:00,800 and stuff you know this is a family 116 00:05:06,879 --> 00:05:03,080 radio show and we're talking about 117 00:05:09,610 --> 00:05:06,889 thingies and I think it's but I never 118 00:05:11,260 --> 00:05:09,620 finished mics I was keeping it family 119 00:05:12,730 --> 00:05:11,270 rated I mean you know I could see it 120 00:05:17,290 --> 00:05:12,740 right now at home mommy what's your 121 00:05:19,450 --> 00:05:17,300 thingy better the parent says shut up 122 00:05:21,909 --> 00:05:19,460 you can't use those terms around here 123 00:05:24,189 --> 00:05:21,919 yeah you don't have a thing go away 124 00:05:26,499 --> 00:05:24,199 right but let me just talk about the 125 00:05:28,990 --> 00:05:26,509 thingy with regard to the water 126 00:05:32,200 --> 00:05:29,000 elemental we were in a living room 127 00:05:33,909 --> 00:05:32,210 sleeping when she woke me up that she 128 00:05:36,490 --> 00:05:33,919 saw this creature that she called a 129 00:05:39,550 --> 00:05:36,500 water elemental we were not near water 130 00:05:42,279 --> 00:05:39,560 we were in Southeast Pennsylvania we 131 00:05:43,570 --> 00:05:42,289 were maybe 50 miles from water what's 132 00:05:46,089 --> 00:05:43,580 new she must have been dreaming 133 00:05:47,850 --> 00:05:46,099 I suppose let me give you the other 134 00:05:50,740 --> 00:05:47,860 crazy things that happened to me because 135 00:05:52,450 --> 00:05:50,750 if you guys are away from water then 136 00:05:53,769 --> 00:05:52,460 wouldn't it be just an elemental why 137 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:53,779 would it be a water elemental 138 00:05:57,219 --> 00:05:55,490 I suppose something in the 139 00:05:59,589 --> 00:05:57,229 characteristic of what she saw she's not 140 00:06:01,659 --> 00:05:59,599 here to tell you next time I saw 141 00:06:03,519 --> 00:06:01,669 something that looked like water no she 142 00:06:05,080 --> 00:06:03,529 saw something that looked like what she 143 00:06:07,469 --> 00:06:05,090 said was a water elemental 144 00:06:10,029 --> 00:06:07,479 you're asking me to justify something 145 00:06:12,249 --> 00:06:10,039 said by a person who was not here to 146 00:06:14,170 --> 00:06:12,259 defend herself when she is here well 147 00:06:16,540 --> 00:06:14,180 technically that's hearsay not admitted 148 00:06:18,939 --> 00:06:16,550 and therefore it probably shouldn't be 149 00:06:21,189 --> 00:06:18,949 construed as a paranormal experience and 150 00:06:25,240 --> 00:06:21,199 the other thing that I do have a habit 151 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:25,250 of predicting accurately what dialogue 152 00:06:29,409 --> 00:06:27,289 will be uttered by people on a TV or 153 00:06:32,110 --> 00:06:29,419 movie show and maybe because it's all 154 00:06:34,629 --> 00:06:32,120 such a cliche these days that I could 155 00:06:37,269 --> 00:06:34,639 listen to the show and I'll repeat the 156 00:06:41,499 --> 00:06:37,279 dialogue that will be uttered by the 157 00:06:44,170 --> 00:06:41,509 actor or actress before they say it and 158 00:06:45,999 --> 00:06:44,180 I do that occasionally yeah I've been 159 00:06:47,499 --> 00:06:46,009 known to do that too we had something 160 00:06:48,970 --> 00:06:47,509 like that happened in the film dead 161 00:06:51,400 --> 00:06:48,980 whisper but you're not a go 162 00:06:53,200 --> 00:06:51,410 but it was the same thing you know well 163 00:06:54,610 --> 00:06:53,210 I said something and then later on we 164 00:06:57,520 --> 00:06:54,620 found the voice saying the same thing on 165 00:06:59,290 --> 00:06:57,530 EVP okay well anyway let's hear the 166 00:07:03,070 --> 00:06:59,300 craziest thing happened of course is 167 00:07:06,460 --> 00:07:03,080 when the first previews came out for 168 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:06,470 this new version of Superman called Man 169 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:08,930 of Steel came out and I heard the music 170 00:07:14,740 --> 00:07:11,210 I liked the melody of what they call the 171 00:07:16,930 --> 00:07:14,750 Clark Kent theme from Hans Zimmer and I 172 00:07:19,150 --> 00:07:16,940 thought well before I see the film I 173 00:07:21,520 --> 00:07:19,160 wonder how this is going to end and I 174 00:07:23,230 --> 00:07:21,530 don't want to give people a spoiler here 175 00:07:25,870 --> 00:07:23,240 because the film is new and people might 176 00:07:28,180 --> 00:07:25,880 still be watching it so I thought how 177 00:07:31,060 --> 00:07:28,190 would this film end and I came up with a 178 00:07:34,240 --> 00:07:31,070 solution which is a final scene plus go 179 00:07:37,150 --> 00:07:34,250 to the closing theme and I went to see 180 00:07:39,900 --> 00:07:37,160 the movie and it ended almost exactly 181 00:07:42,910 --> 00:07:39,910 the way I predicted the dialogue and the 182 00:07:47,110 --> 00:07:42,920 closing again it must be a big cliche 183 00:07:49,450 --> 00:07:47,120 right it kind of sounds that way if the 184 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:49,460 dialogues predictable then the rapidly 185 00:07:54,700 --> 00:07:51,530 descending into the realm of cliches I 186 00:07:58,120 --> 00:07:54,710 would imagine well how often in a movie 187 00:08:00,220 --> 00:07:58,130 these days you hear dialogue that's more 188 00:08:02,770 --> 00:08:00,230 than a cliche especially a comic book 189 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:02,780 movie yeah well I mean come on the 190 00:08:08,590 --> 00:08:05,410 average sentence length in a movie 191 00:08:10,840 --> 00:08:08,600 script or screenplay is about maybe four 192 00:08:14,080 --> 00:08:10,850 words five words so what do you think I 193 00:08:17,500 --> 00:08:14,090 don't know I thought it sucked you did 194 00:08:20,290 --> 00:08:17,510 yeah I mean that's kind of they dumbed 195 00:08:22,210 --> 00:08:20,300 it down so far that well you'll watch a 196 00:08:25,090 --> 00:08:22,220 movie from the 40s where they rattle off 197 00:08:26,530 --> 00:08:25,100 five minutes you know monologues it just 198 00:08:29,170 --> 00:08:26,540 doesn't happen that way people people's 199 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:29,180 brains are not set up I guess in the 200 00:08:36,550 --> 00:08:33,410 modern era to process you know amounts 201 00:08:38,409 --> 00:08:36,560 of information above four or five words 202 00:08:41,740 --> 00:08:38,419 in a sentence you know I can think of a 203 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:41,750 couple of exceptions to films the Casino 204 00:08:46,870 --> 00:08:44,090 Royale film with Daniel Craig is James 205 00:08:49,510 --> 00:08:46,880 Bond and Skyfall there were lots of 206 00:08:52,030 --> 00:08:49,520 scenes there was snappy dialogue and the 207 00:08:54,160 --> 00:08:52,040 dialogue consisted of more than four 208 00:08:56,950 --> 00:08:54,170 words and more sometimes than a single 209 00:08:59,400 --> 00:08:56,960 sentence you know well let's say a 210 00:09:01,600 --> 00:08:59,410 silver linings playbook was a nice smart 211 00:09:02,350 --> 00:09:01,610 well thought-out film that had some 212 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:02,360 really great 213 00:09:05,560 --> 00:09:04,010 Monologues so they're still out there 214 00:09:07,540 --> 00:09:05,570 they're just harder to find and they 215 00:09:09,370 --> 00:09:07,550 have less explosions right well of 216 00:09:11,650 --> 00:09:09,380 course in order to have good dialog 217 00:09:14,199 --> 00:09:11,660 you've got to hire 12 script doctors 218 00:09:15,819 --> 00:09:14,209 each of which gets to do what one-line 219 00:09:17,650 --> 00:09:15,829 you wondered about these films I've got 220 00:09:20,319 --> 00:09:17,660 you know six or eight different writers 221 00:09:24,069 --> 00:09:20,329 they've rewritten the script 160 times 222 00:09:26,139 --> 00:09:24,079 and you wonder okay shoot the darn thing 223 00:09:27,579 --> 00:09:26,149 you know what that's a question that 224 00:09:29,590 --> 00:09:27,589 before I came to Hollywood 225 00:09:31,900 --> 00:09:29,600 I asked often and now that I'm in 226 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:31,910 Hollywood I totally get it I think that 227 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Hollywood stuff so you're saying 337 00:14:40,749 --> 00:14:38,389 here Ron that you get an idea for film 338 00:14:42,490 --> 00:14:40,759 comes out of the ether or whatever or 339 00:14:44,769 --> 00:14:42,500 maybe because you took a thir depending 340 00:14:46,960 --> 00:14:44,779 on your point of view as it is in the 341 00:14:49,210 --> 00:14:46,970 mind of the person who received it it's 342 00:14:51,280 --> 00:14:49,220 in its second most purest form if that 343 00:14:53,199 --> 00:14:51,290 person is able to take that idea get it 344 00:14:54,999 --> 00:14:53,209 down on paper assemble a crew and make 345 00:14:57,220 --> 00:14:55,009 the film he wants to make or any 346 00:15:00,009 --> 00:14:57,230 creative endeavor it is as close to that 347 00:15:01,629 --> 00:15:00,019 purity as it gets but in creativity by 348 00:15:03,550 --> 00:15:01,639 committee which is how things are done 349 00:15:05,199 --> 00:15:03,560 if you've ever watched a movie and just 350 00:15:06,670 --> 00:15:05,209 wondered how could this movie be written 351 00:15:08,410 --> 00:15:06,680 by somebody written by a bunch of other 352 00:15:11,439 --> 00:15:08,420 people and then go through a committee 353 00:15:13,150 --> 00:15:11,449 and focus groups and everything designed 354 00:15:16,090 --> 00:15:13,160 to try and make the film better and come 355 00:15:19,120 --> 00:15:16,100 out so badly it's because the original 356 00:15:20,980 --> 00:15:19,130 creative purity is diluted more and more 357 00:15:23,290 --> 00:15:20,990 and more by all of the things that make 358 00:15:24,519 --> 00:15:23,300 us human a lot of times it's better to 359 00:15:26,350 --> 00:15:24,529 be a Natur 360 00:15:28,059 --> 00:15:26,360 than it is to sit in this Hollywood 361 00:15:29,920 --> 00:15:28,069 assembly line and try to be a part of 362 00:15:32,500 --> 00:15:29,930 the bigger machine well of course with a 363 00:15:35,590 --> 00:15:32,510 comic book movie you not just have a 364 00:15:39,069 --> 00:15:35,600 producer a director and a screenwriter 365 00:15:40,780 --> 00:15:39,079 you've got the keeper of the legend of 366 00:15:43,420 --> 00:15:40,790 that comic book character but you have 367 00:15:46,660 --> 00:15:43,430 to deal with you have to deal with for 368 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:46,670 Superman DC Comics with Spider Man you 369 00:15:52,660 --> 00:15:49,970 have marvel and you've built up these 370 00:15:54,189 --> 00:15:52,670 characters over the years and there are 371 00:15:57,720 --> 00:15:54,199 certain things about them 372 00:16:01,420 --> 00:15:57,730 characteristics that before you change 373 00:16:04,870 --> 00:16:01,430 anything you've got to go back and get 374 00:16:07,629 --> 00:16:04,880 their approval test it out test marketed 375 00:16:10,509 --> 00:16:07,639 focus group it check the dialogue it's a 376 00:16:11,860 --> 00:16:10,519 very complicated process and that 377 00:16:15,460 --> 00:16:11,870 explains why those movies are also 378 00:16:17,650 --> 00:16:15,470 imperfect but speaking of movies Chris 379 00:16:18,590 --> 00:16:17,660 you were telling me something here the 380 00:16:22,460 --> 00:16:18,600 other day 381 00:16:24,620 --> 00:16:22,470 that James Fox is on a new movie project 382 00:16:27,350 --> 00:16:24,630 with Tracy to remain we should give a 383 00:16:29,660 --> 00:16:27,360 background here James Fox of course did 384 00:16:30,230 --> 00:16:29,670 this great UFO documentary I know what I 385 00:16:32,480 --> 00:16:30,240 saw 386 00:16:34,490 --> 00:16:32,490 Ben and got involved with the worst TV 387 00:16:37,490 --> 00:16:34,500 show on the planet devoted to UFOs 388 00:16:40,790 --> 00:16:37,500 called chasing UFOs for what was a 389 00:16:43,340 --> 00:16:40,800 National Geographic correct okay this is 390 00:16:47,509 --> 00:16:43,350 the project where two of the hosts 391 00:16:50,090 --> 00:16:47,519 including James basically disavowed the 392 00:16:53,210 --> 00:16:50,100 show before the first episode was 393 00:16:54,079 --> 00:16:53,220 broadcast so we assumed James Fox had to 394 00:16:56,990 --> 00:16:54,089 do something else 395 00:16:59,210 --> 00:16:57,000 so he's involved with Tracy Torme what's 396 00:17:02,199 --> 00:16:59,220 this all about Chris well I'm not 397 00:17:04,429 --> 00:17:02,209 exactly sure that they really even know 398 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:04,439 well that makes it even more dangerous 399 00:17:08,270 --> 00:17:06,089 but that's true for how they were they 400 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:08,280 don't know what they do well Tracy is a 401 00:17:13,220 --> 00:17:11,490 really really talented gifted writer he 402 00:17:15,679 --> 00:17:13,230 was the senior story editor for Star 403 00:17:17,630 --> 00:17:15,689 Trek new-generation he came up with the 404 00:17:20,110 --> 00:17:17,640 whole concept of the Dixon hill 405 00:17:23,059 --> 00:17:20,120 character and the the 30s holodeck 406 00:17:25,159 --> 00:17:23,069 episodes and he also did the show 407 00:17:27,529 --> 00:17:25,169 sliders back in the 90s which was really 408 00:17:30,169 --> 00:17:27,539 well done for a show of its type it was 409 00:17:32,299 --> 00:17:30,179 kind of it was light it was comedic in 410 00:17:34,159 --> 00:17:32,309 many ways but some of the storylines 411 00:17:36,020 --> 00:17:34,169 were quite ingenious about parallel 412 00:17:38,980 --> 00:17:36,030 universes and and that was Tracy's baby 413 00:17:41,720 --> 00:17:38,990 he wrote put it together produced it 414 00:17:43,039 --> 00:17:41,730 hired everybody and he did a very good 415 00:17:46,490 --> 00:17:43,049 job of that and of course he's probably 416 00:17:48,919 --> 00:17:46,500 best known in the field of ufology for 417 00:17:51,289 --> 00:17:48,929 his movie fire in the sky which was the 418 00:17:54,549 --> 00:17:51,299 the feature film about the Travis Walton 419 00:17:57,830 --> 00:17:54,559 case and Tracy is going to be writing 420 00:18:00,320 --> 00:17:57,840 the majority of the movie if not all of 421 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:00,330 it and it is a feature film they are 422 00:18:07,399 --> 00:18:03,330 really doing a a you know a top shelf 423 00:18:10,010 --> 00:18:07,409 project here and I was invited out to do 424 00:18:11,899 --> 00:18:10,020 a sit-down interview with Tracy who 425 00:18:13,130 --> 00:18:11,909 unfortunately is you know having some 426 00:18:14,990 --> 00:18:13,140 health problems right now he was unable 427 00:18:17,390 --> 00:18:15,000 to be there so James did the interview 428 00:18:20,450 --> 00:18:17,400 but they have quite a number of people 429 00:18:23,539 --> 00:18:20,460 that they've gotten involved and and I'd 430 00:18:25,549 --> 00:18:23,549 say 90% of these names are very well 431 00:18:28,850 --> 00:18:25,559 respected and well considered in the 432 00:18:30,860 --> 00:18:28,860 field I had the pleasure of touching 433 00:18:31,310 --> 00:18:30,870 bases with and woful who of course is 434 00:18:35,450 --> 00:18:31,320 the long 435 00:18:38,360 --> 00:18:35,460 time la area madam of UFO research here 436 00:18:41,870 --> 00:18:38,370 in Southern California she's she's been 437 00:18:44,120 --> 00:18:41,880 at it almost 50 years she also had 438 00:18:47,060 --> 00:18:44,130 interestingly enough Jane the original 439 00:18:50,960 --> 00:18:47,070 Polaroid snapshots that Rex Heflin took 440 00:18:53,990 --> 00:18:50,970 in 65 of the of the strange disc craft 441 00:18:57,380 --> 00:18:54,000 that flew by his car by his truck a very 442 00:19:00,440 --> 00:18:57,390 very compelling I really took a careful 443 00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:00,450 look at these photographs and I they 444 00:19:04,130 --> 00:19:02,010 look genuine to me especially the last 445 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:04,140 one with the smoke ring that the object 446 00:19:07,910 --> 00:19:06,450 left when it when it zipped away now let 447 00:19:10,790 --> 00:19:07,920 me just our listeners before you proceed 448 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:10,800 and ruffle was a guest on the podcast on 449 00:19:16,310 --> 00:19:14,610 March 11th 2007 and today upon our 450 00:19:19,490 --> 00:19:16,320 archives you want to hear about it yeah 451 00:19:22,700 --> 00:19:19,500 she's a real sweet lady one of my heroes 452 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:22,710 she's really been an unsung hero not a 453 00:19:26,870 --> 00:19:23,970 big self-promoter 454 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:26,880 doesn't go around touting her work she 455 00:19:30,710 --> 00:19:28,290 was very very good friends with James 456 00:19:33,140 --> 00:19:30,720 McDonald of course who tragically passed 457 00:19:34,610 --> 00:19:33,150 away many years ago now but he was he 458 00:19:36,170 --> 00:19:34,620 was one of the few real mainstream 459 00:19:38,450 --> 00:19:36,180 scientists that got involved in in 460 00:19:41,690 --> 00:19:38,460 ufology and there is some question about 461 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:41,700 the the events surrounding MacDonald's 462 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:43,770 death but but it was real fun catching 463 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:45,450 up with her John Alexander was there 464 00:19:50,620 --> 00:19:47,850 Nick Pope Lesley Kane they've put 465 00:19:53,690 --> 00:19:50,630 together quite an impressive list of 466 00:19:56,000 --> 00:19:53,700 people to interview I'm not exactly sure 467 00:19:59,060 --> 00:19:56,010 where they're gonna go with this the the 468 00:20:01,580 --> 00:19:59,070 projects working title is 701 which is 469 00:20:02,380 --> 00:20:01,590 the number of unexplained cases in 470 00:20:06,920 --> 00:20:02,390 project Bluebook 471 00:20:09,350 --> 00:20:06,930 Tracy also co-wrote the novel fast 472 00:20:12,590 --> 00:20:09,360 Walker was jacques valet so you know 473 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:12,600 Tracy is very up to speed on many if not 474 00:20:17,690 --> 00:20:15,570 most of the various permutations of 475 00:20:20,690 --> 00:20:17,700 thinking and in ufology and you know I 476 00:20:23,360 --> 00:20:20,700 really look forward to to his insight 477 00:20:25,460 --> 00:20:23,370 and in writing skill in putting a 478 00:20:28,310 --> 00:20:25,470 project like this together I think that 479 00:20:30,620 --> 00:20:28,320 there's some real good potential with 480 00:20:33,260 --> 00:20:30,630 this partnership this could be the most 481 00:20:34,460 --> 00:20:33,270 important film you know in in recent 482 00:20:37,310 --> 00:20:34,470 memory that's been made about the 483 00:20:39,260 --> 00:20:37,320 subject of UFOs so I really have high 484 00:20:40,940 --> 00:20:39,270 hopes for this project I'm I'm the 485 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:40,950 eternal optimist I think like I said 486 00:20:44,750 --> 00:20:43,890 it's a good partnership they seem to be 487 00:20:47,480 --> 00:20:44,760 asking 488 00:20:49,610 --> 00:20:47,490 very intelligent probing questions of 489 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:49,620 course I think James was a little bit 490 00:20:54,200 --> 00:20:51,570 freaked out by John Alexander looking 491 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:54,210 around all day in the shadows scarin 492 00:20:59,600 --> 00:20:56,490 people I wonder if he had a tape 493 00:21:01,940 --> 00:20:59,610 recorder or something no but all kidding 494 00:21:04,340 --> 00:21:01,950 aside I was very honored to be asked to 495 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:04,350 come out and be a part of this and also 496 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:06,330 it gave me a chance to work on some 497 00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:08,610 projects that Ron and I have been have 498 00:21:13,310 --> 00:21:11,370 been involved in over the years that the 499 00:21:15,590 --> 00:21:13,320 types of loose ends complete some 500 00:21:18,920 --> 00:21:15,600 projects and it's been all in all a very 501 00:21:21,260 --> 00:21:18,930 successful trip okay so any indication 502 00:21:22,970 --> 00:21:21,270 yet when this new project might come to 503 00:21:25,430 --> 00:21:22,980 the fore usually it's a couple of years 504 00:21:27,260 --> 00:21:25,440 yeah it's it's gonna be a while down the 505 00:21:28,940 --> 00:21:27,270 road and I wouldn't have really 506 00:21:30,380 --> 00:21:28,950 mentioned anything about it unless James 507 00:21:32,990 --> 00:21:30,390 had already mentioned things publicly 508 00:21:34,610 --> 00:21:33,000 about the project so I feel okay at 509 00:21:37,010 --> 00:21:34,620 least acknowledging that the projects 510 00:21:38,780 --> 00:21:37,020 going on with with projects of this type 511 00:21:41,030 --> 00:21:38,790 they do kind of get a life of their own 512 00:21:43,700 --> 00:21:41,040 and I'm I'm sure such a talented writer 513 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:43,710 who writer is Tracy you know at the helm 514 00:21:47,450 --> 00:21:45,930 in terms of the creative part of this I 515 00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:47,460 think it's going to be a very very good 516 00:21:52,190 --> 00:21:50,010 project and this is probably the only 517 00:21:54,950 --> 00:21:52,200 two guys that could get together and do 518 00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:54,960 a project and offer an invitation to 519 00:21:57,950 --> 00:21:56,490 come out and be interviewed and me not 520 00:22:00,920 --> 00:21:57,960 really have an idea of what they were 521 00:22:03,260 --> 00:22:00,930 planning on doing I normally need a lot 522 00:22:05,180 --> 00:22:03,270 more upfront qualifying information 523 00:22:08,870 --> 00:22:05,190 before I get involved in a video project 524 00:22:11,420 --> 00:22:08,880 I did come out here with virtually 525 00:22:13,220 --> 00:22:11,430 little or no information about what I 526 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:13,230 was getting involved with because I do 527 00:22:17,330 --> 00:22:15,210 respect these two guys it's the kind of 528 00:22:19,460 --> 00:22:17,340 thing that you could basically take this 529 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:19,470 on faith that they will do everything 530 00:22:24,650 --> 00:22:21,810 they can to produce something with 531 00:22:26,690 --> 00:22:24,660 integrity which happens so seldom in 532 00:22:29,920 --> 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there are no 645 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:26,120 sharks there boy did we have fun couple 646 00:27:30,340 --> 00:27:27,890 of three days ago we went out on Ron's 647 00:27:32,110 --> 00:27:30,350 boat and we just happened to luck out 648 00:27:35,080 --> 00:27:32,120 and stumble on a pot of what was 649 00:27:36,790 --> 00:27:35,090 estimated by the dolphin watch boat that 650 00:27:38,590 --> 00:27:36,800 was nearby that took some incredible 651 00:27:40,690 --> 00:27:38,600 video they estimated there were about 652 00:27:42,580 --> 00:27:40,700 six thousand dolphins in this single pod 653 00:27:44,020 --> 00:27:42,590 and I'll tell you it was one of the most 654 00:27:46,990 --> 00:27:44,030 magical things I've ever seen in nature 655 00:27:49,780 --> 00:27:47,000 it was just really just stunning 656 00:27:52,210 --> 00:27:49,790 all those dolphins maybe they are the 657 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:52,220 people or the anti DS of the creatures 658 00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:55,010 who bring us UFOs there's certainly a 659 00:27:59,080 --> 00:27:56,930 mythos for that but then again there's a 660 00:28:00,880 --> 00:27:59,090 mythos for everything we were out there 661 00:28:02,410 --> 00:28:00,890 that the dolphin experience was pretty 662 00:28:04,300 --> 00:28:02,420 incredible they were swimming right at 663 00:28:04,840 --> 00:28:04,310 the bow of the boat in groups of a dozen 664 00:28:06,460 --> 00:28:04,850 or more 665 00:28:07,930 --> 00:28:06,470 they were looking up at us they were 666 00:28:09,910 --> 00:28:07,940 jumping out of the water one of them 667 00:28:11,260 --> 00:28:09,920 even purposely splashed me while I was 668 00:28:12,910 --> 00:28:11,270 trying to take its picture it was just 669 00:28:15,460 --> 00:28:12,920 sigh it was incredible everywhere you 670 00:28:17,440 --> 00:28:15,470 look just imagine the sea just churning 671 00:28:19,510 --> 00:28:17,450 white from a distance it just looked 672 00:28:21,250 --> 00:28:19,520 like white water and then you get close 673 00:28:23,140 --> 00:28:21,260 and it's just nothing but thousands of 674 00:28:24,970 --> 00:28:23,150 dolphins just swimming at top speed and 675 00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:24,980 jumping in and out of the water it was 676 00:28:30,190 --> 00:28:27,650 absolutely incredible the level of their 677 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:30,200 awareness is incredible yeah it was just 678 00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:31,850 one of those moments I guess it was 679 00:28:35,770 --> 00:28:34,010 funny because on the way to the dock 680 00:28:38,230 --> 00:28:35,780 Chris was asking me about because he'd 681 00:28:40,210 --> 00:28:38,240 seen the video from January about a pot 682 00:28:41,980 --> 00:28:40,220 of dolphins doing that I was like well 683 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:41,990 they said that it doesn't happen not 684 00:28:46,690 --> 00:28:44,570 often but it's also not that rare but I 685 00:28:48,280 --> 00:28:46,700 guess it's rare enough that it the last 686 00:28:50,980 --> 00:28:48,290 time it happened was in January so 687 00:28:52,450 --> 00:28:50,990 imagine how strange it felt to to take 688 00:28:54,580 --> 00:28:52,460 the boat out and just run 689 00:28:58,150 --> 00:28:54,590 right into this right after Chris was 690 00:28:59,380 --> 00:28:58,160 asking about it I'm like okay well do 691 00:29:00,670 --> 00:28:59,390 you be careful what questions you ask 692 00:29:03,370 --> 00:29:00,680 the universe is giving you some pretty 693 00:29:05,020 --> 00:29:03,380 solid answers yeah so is there anything 694 00:29:08,050 --> 00:29:05,030 about dolphins that we would call 695 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:08,060 paranormal either of you can answer i I 696 00:29:11,830 --> 00:29:09,770 did a film once it was in the Sedona 697 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:11,840 film festival called dolphin s and it 698 00:29:16,810 --> 00:29:14,210 came from my own personal experience 699 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:16,820 scuba diving with and seeing dolphins in 700 00:29:20,890 --> 00:29:18,770 the wild they certainly have a psychic 701 00:29:22,900 --> 00:29:20,900 ability to them they're as smart or 702 00:29:24,460 --> 00:29:22,910 smarter than we are and it really makes 703 00:29:26,380 --> 00:29:24,470 you wonder as you watch the way they 704 00:29:27,850 --> 00:29:26,390 behave under the water if they're you 705 00:29:29,020 --> 00:29:27,860 know maybe their bodies are here but 706 00:29:31,090 --> 00:29:29,030 their minds are somewhere completely 707 00:29:33,250 --> 00:29:31,100 different and the way the Dolphins 708 00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:33,260 actually hunt in the way they organize 709 00:29:37,690 --> 00:29:34,730 themselves in the ocean and the way they 710 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:37,700 communicate oddly enough is if you can 711 00:29:41,500 --> 00:29:39,410 explain dolphin communication it also 712 00:29:44,380 --> 00:29:41,510 explains a lot of paranormal activity 713 00:29:46,570 --> 00:29:44,390 they just did a finding with dolphins 714 00:29:49,750 --> 00:29:46,580 that seems to indicate that because 715 00:29:51,700 --> 00:29:49,760 linguists are unable to determine with 716 00:29:54,130 --> 00:29:51,710 even the best computers what the 717 00:29:56,230 --> 00:29:54,140 Dolphins language is it stumped people 718 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:56,240 for a really long time but apparently 719 00:30:00,370 --> 00:29:58,010 there's a membrane inside the Dolphins 720 00:30:02,500 --> 00:30:00,380 ear that vibrates 721 00:30:04,870 --> 00:30:02,510 whenever the dog another dolphin makes a 722 00:30:07,900 --> 00:30:04,880 noise and when that membrane vibrates it 723 00:30:10,930 --> 00:30:07,910 actually creates a picture an image of 724 00:30:12,370 --> 00:30:10,940 what the other dolphin is conveying so 725 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:12,380 you're taking sound and you're 726 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:14,090 converting it to something that creates 727 00:30:17,980 --> 00:30:15,770 a picture in the mind of the receiving 728 00:30:19,690 --> 00:30:17,990 dolphin and that's why linguists can't 729 00:30:21,220 --> 00:30:19,700 pick up what the Dolphins are saying 730 00:30:23,020 --> 00:30:21,230 because it's a completely different 731 00:30:24,940 --> 00:30:23,030 approach to language and then when you 732 00:30:26,500 --> 00:30:24,950 get into telepathy and some of the 733 00:30:28,330 --> 00:30:26,510 abilities that dolphins seem to have 734 00:30:30,610 --> 00:30:28,340 underwater in other ways of 735 00:30:32,830 --> 00:30:30,620 communicating and picking up things that 736 00:30:34,930 --> 00:30:32,840 people are feeling you know it opens up 737 00:30:36,850 --> 00:30:34,940 that whole quantum theory to what's 738 00:30:38,860 --> 00:30:36,860 happening outside of our physical realm 739 00:30:40,660 --> 00:30:38,870 and when you open that door and you look 740 00:30:43,180 --> 00:30:40,670 at things that are happening in this 741 00:30:45,250 --> 00:30:43,190 place then it could explain a lot of 742 00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:45,260 things that we call paranormal so yeah 743 00:30:48,850 --> 00:30:47,210 it's an interesting parallel is there 744 00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:48,860 anything about dolphins what we know 745 00:30:53,830 --> 00:30:51,290 that could identify with paranormal 746 00:30:55,420 --> 00:30:53,840 phenomenon and the answer surprisingly 747 00:30:57,040 --> 00:30:55,430 is sure absolutely 748 00:30:58,420 --> 00:30:57,050 well the thing I'm understanding from 749 00:31:01,330 --> 00:30:58,430 what you say is they have extraordinary 750 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:01,340 mental abilities and we're not a hard 751 00:31:05,810 --> 00:31:03,170 percent sure about that what they can do 752 00:31:09,500 --> 00:31:05,820 and what kind of insights they have 753 00:31:12,500 --> 00:31:09,510 and more to the point if this is beings 754 00:31:14,630 --> 00:31:12,510 creatures on our own world that we can't 755 00:31:16,910 --> 00:31:14,640 understand completely what about 756 00:31:19,130 --> 00:31:16,920 visitors from another planet how would 757 00:31:21,350 --> 00:31:19,140 we understand them yeah 758 00:31:23,300 --> 00:31:21,360 well absolutely and you know we don't we 759 00:31:24,740 --> 00:31:23,310 don't even know what would a visitor 760 00:31:27,470 --> 00:31:24,750 from another planet look like maybe 761 00:31:28,940 --> 00:31:27,480 maybe it could be here as a tree sitting 762 00:31:30,860 --> 00:31:28,950 there observing its neighborhood maybe 763 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:30,870 their antenna is transmitting to another 764 00:31:35,150 --> 00:31:33,690 another galaxy the breadth of what life 765 00:31:36,560 --> 00:31:35,160 can be just what we see on our own 766 00:31:38,840 --> 00:31:36,570 planet especially when you start looking 767 00:31:41,660 --> 00:31:38,850 at the ocean look what can exist in the 768 00:31:43,270 --> 00:31:41,670 ocean and and these amoebas that only 769 00:31:46,070 --> 00:31:43,280 exist near the mantles where the 770 00:31:47,300 --> 00:31:46,080 superheated water comes out of out of 771 00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:47,310 the earth and that's where they thrive 772 00:31:52,790 --> 00:31:50,130 so you're kind of saying we don't really 773 00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:52,800 know what life is enough to even be able 774 00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:54,960 to say we could identify it if it was 775 00:31:59,690 --> 00:31:56,610 right in front of our face and you're 776 00:32:02,810 --> 00:31:59,700 absolutely correct well even if we have 777 00:32:06,050 --> 00:32:02,820 a vague understanding of the people here 778 00:32:08,450 --> 00:32:06,060 and other creatures here and how smart 779 00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:08,460 they might be that doesn't mean that 780 00:32:14,870 --> 00:32:11,850 similar life-forms don't evolve on other 781 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:14,880 worlds it may be that certain type of 782 00:32:19,820 --> 00:32:17,850 life-forms are better capable of 783 00:32:22,010 --> 00:32:19,830 building civilizations I'm not trying to 784 00:32:22,490 --> 00:32:22,020 be an egomaniac here by the way ladies 785 00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:22,500 and gentlemen 786 00:32:28,580 --> 00:32:25,910 and assuming that et is human okay 787 00:32:31,430 --> 00:32:28,590 only on Krypton done in Krypton we know 788 00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:31,440 they're human but when they're in front 789 00:32:35,870 --> 00:32:33,330 of a Yellow Sun they become super but 790 00:32:37,610 --> 00:32:35,880 that's just comic books yeah just 791 00:32:40,130 --> 00:32:37,620 recently Morgan Freeman did one of his 792 00:32:42,020 --> 00:32:40,140 new through the wormhole shows where it 793 00:32:45,350 --> 00:32:42,030 was called what do aliens look like and 794 00:32:47,180 --> 00:32:45,360 they actually did in 3d animation all 795 00:32:48,260 --> 00:32:47,190 kinds of different versions of aliens 796 00:32:50,060 --> 00:32:48,270 that were based on different 797 00:32:52,550 --> 00:32:50,070 environments and different types of life 798 00:32:55,460 --> 00:32:52,560 that we know exist on earth so yeah the 799 00:32:57,650 --> 00:32:55,470 the variety of life as we get off of 800 00:32:59,690 --> 00:32:57,660 this planet if this planet serves as any 801 00:33:01,700 --> 00:32:59,700 example it's it's infinite and it's 802 00:33:02,660 --> 00:33:01,710 probably absolutely incredible then of 803 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:02,670 course when we get outside of the 804 00:33:06,980 --> 00:33:04,890 physical realm you deal with energetic 805 00:33:08,420 --> 00:33:06,990 beings and light beings and all of the 806 00:33:10,970 --> 00:33:08,430 different kinds of creatures and 807 00:33:12,650 --> 00:33:10,980 elementals that they say exist in the in 808 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:12,660 between and on the other channels it's 809 00:33:18,710 --> 00:33:15,450 just it's an infinite variety I'm sure 810 00:33:19,100 --> 00:33:18,720 well just even realizing that life can 811 00:33:21,919 --> 00:33:19,110 flirt 812 00:33:24,230 --> 00:33:21,929 and oh so many ways and once again we 813 00:33:26,900 --> 00:33:24,240 don't know what kind of civilization or 814 00:33:29,780 --> 00:33:26,910 is it possible dolphins have some sort 815 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:29,790 of civilization set up we don't know we 816 00:33:34,700 --> 00:33:32,010 don't know under to see whether dolphins 817 00:33:37,070 --> 00:33:34,710 have their own flying machines well 818 00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:37,080 we're pretty sure they don't we assume 819 00:33:41,150 --> 00:33:39,330 they don't of course I think one of the 820 00:33:44,030 --> 00:33:41,160 coolest depictions of an alien life-form 821 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:44,040 was in the the remake of War of the 822 00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:45,570 Worlds I think it's Steven Spielberg 823 00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:48,210 dead remember the scene where Tom Cruise 824 00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:50,960 and his daughter are hiding in the 825 00:33:58,669 --> 00:33:54,690 basement of the house I think with Randy 826 00:34:02,390 --> 00:33:58,679 Quaid and these three-legged aliens come 827 00:34:04,940 --> 00:34:02,400 in so the tripod pilots of the larger 828 00:34:07,570 --> 00:34:04,950 tripods I thought those were depicted 829 00:34:09,770 --> 00:34:07,580 very interestingly you know the tripod 830 00:34:12,500 --> 00:34:09,780 life-form as opposed to a bipedal 831 00:34:15,290 --> 00:34:12,510 life-form I think that that's probably a 832 00:34:17,810 --> 00:34:15,300 fairly popular motif out there and the 833 00:34:20,889 --> 00:34:17,820 the great beyond it's very stable 834 00:34:26,540 --> 00:34:20,899 tripods so et has three legs 835 00:34:28,430 --> 00:34:26,550 yeah maybe all right sounds like you're 836 00:34:30,230 --> 00:34:28,440 having a wild time there let's just look 837 00:34:32,570 --> 00:34:30,240 further over some of the things that 838 00:34:35,720 --> 00:34:32,580 have happened we're covering Chris 839 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:35,730 O'Brien's la trip and he's with Ron 840 00:34:42,139 --> 00:34:39,090 James a producer and he's had some 841 00:34:43,490 --> 00:34:42,149 pretty fascinating experiences I think 842 00:34:46,700 --> 00:34:43,500 one of the things we were talking about 843 00:34:49,609 --> 00:34:46,710 just in general before focusing on the 844 00:34:52,879 --> 00:34:49,619 movie business how badly they've treated 845 00:34:54,500 --> 00:34:52,889 the subject of UFOs and the paranormal 846 00:34:57,349 --> 00:34:54,510 of course today it's all about reality 847 00:34:59,690 --> 00:34:57,359 shows it's about every one of those 848 00:35:02,180 --> 00:34:59,700 shows has to have a payoff before the 849 00:35:04,370 --> 00:35:02,190 end so for example on chasing UFOs 850 00:35:07,700 --> 00:35:04,380 before the end of the show there had to 851 00:35:11,030 --> 00:35:07,710 be something there that was apparently 852 00:35:13,370 --> 00:35:11,040 related to a UFO appearing or some new 853 00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:13,380 evidence they had to have a discovery it 854 00:35:18,349 --> 00:35:17,490 was plotted like a very bad science 855 00:35:21,109 --> 00:35:18,359 fiction movie 856 00:35:22,849 --> 00:35:21,119 so we see now for example as you 857 00:35:25,010 --> 00:35:22,859 mentioned before Chris that Tracy to 858 00:35:28,430 --> 00:35:25,020 remain James Fox are working on a new 859 00:35:30,650 --> 00:35:28,440 UFO documentary but how do we fix the 860 00:35:32,990 --> 00:35:30,660 media perceptions how do we come out 861 00:35:35,750 --> 00:35:33,000 with motion pictures TV shows 862 00:35:38,060 --> 00:35:35,760 that realistically present what's going 863 00:35:38,720 --> 00:35:38,070 on well that's a that's a really good 864 00:35:41,810 --> 00:35:38,730 question 865 00:35:43,580 --> 00:35:41,820 Jane and I I think Ron is at the 866 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:43,590 forefront of a movement that is 867 00:35:50,270 --> 00:35:45,930 attempting to bring this thing back to a 868 00:35:53,450 --> 00:35:50,280 sense of Education and normalcy Ron 869 00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:53,460 calls this way of thinking and the 870 00:35:58,180 --> 00:35:55,290 people that are involved networking in 871 00:36:00,320 --> 00:35:58,190 this regard as conscious media and 872 00:36:02,450 --> 00:36:00,330 unfortunately we've seen a real trend 873 00:36:04,940 --> 00:36:02,460 over the past couple decades of media 874 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:04,950 becoming increasingly unconscious and 875 00:36:11,270 --> 00:36:08,970 more premeditated and agenda driven and 876 00:36:15,770 --> 00:36:11,280 in just getting you know they're dumbing 877 00:36:16,850 --> 00:36:15,780 down the not only the actual subjects 878 00:36:18,650 --> 00:36:16,860 that they're covering but the way they 879 00:36:21,770 --> 00:36:18,660 present these subjects are becoming 880 00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:21,780 increasingly lowbrow and unsophisticated 881 00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:25,770 and Ron why don't you explain your whole 882 00:36:30,020 --> 00:36:28,170 idea of conscious media and and talk 883 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:30,030 about some of the folks that are getting 884 00:36:35,060 --> 00:36:32,330 involved in this particular mindset and 885 00:36:37,370 --> 00:36:35,070 trying to sort of read jump start this 886 00:36:39,890 --> 00:36:37,380 whole coverage of the paranormal 887 00:36:42,470 --> 00:36:39,900 we'll have Ron's answer on the other 888 00:36:48,220 --> 00:36:42,480 side we have gene and Chris you're in 889 00:36:55,009 --> 00:36:51,799 the GC and radio network providing the 890 00:37:01,490 --> 00:36:55,019 world with hard-hitting talk radio G C 891 00:37:04,519 --> 00:37:01,500 and great talk radio starts here is 892 00:37:06,650 --> 00:37:04,529 there a secret UFO agenda to strange 893 00:37:09,109 --> 00:37:06,660 creatures from the darkest corners of 894 00:37:11,930 --> 00:37:09,119 the mind roam the earth is there 895 00:37:15,559 --> 00:37:11,940 evidence for mind control time travel or 896 00:37:17,180 --> 00:37:15,569 devious 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got our host segment 992 00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:27,099 explained your answers well I think the 993 00:41:31,170 --> 00:41:28,690 term conscious media has been being 994 00:41:33,930 --> 00:41:31,180 batted around since the 80s in in a 995 00:41:36,089 --> 00:41:33,940 larger way and I've been asked on 996 00:41:38,430 --> 00:41:36,099 numerous interviews what what I feel the 997 00:41:40,440 --> 00:41:38,440 definition of that is and boiled down to 998 00:41:43,890 --> 00:41:40,450 its simplest form I think that a 999 00:41:47,490 --> 00:41:43,900 conscious media is using media products 1000 00:41:48,569 --> 00:41:47,500 to inform educate and enlighten as well 1001 00:41:50,490 --> 00:41:48,579 as to entertain 1002 00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:50,500 that's the definitive difference between 1003 00:41:55,740 --> 00:41:52,930 that and nor an average media that is 1004 00:41:57,420 --> 00:41:55,750 just there to entertain now I have to in 1005 00:41:59,069 --> 00:41:57,430 a little bit of a way defend Hollywood 1006 00:42:00,930 --> 00:41:59,079 I'm involved with a lot of very very 1007 00:42:03,650 --> 00:42:00,940 conscious people out here more than I've 1008 00:42:06,029 --> 00:42:03,660 seen in cities like Asheville and Sedona 1009 00:42:08,549 --> 00:42:06,039 people that are actually in this trying 1010 00:42:09,870 --> 00:42:08,559 to make the real change you could be 1011 00:42:11,400 --> 00:42:09,880 somebody who considers themselves 1012 00:42:13,130 --> 00:42:11,410 conscious and you live a certain 1013 00:42:15,260 --> 00:42:13,140 lifestyle and you 1014 00:42:17,210 --> 00:42:15,270 against the the machine and that's 1015 00:42:20,090 --> 00:42:17,220 pretty much what you do and that's all 1016 00:42:22,370 --> 00:42:20,100 you ever succeed in doing but out in LA 1017 00:42:24,260 --> 00:42:22,380 to their credit you know I mean I know 1018 00:42:26,660 --> 00:42:24,270 people like Tom Shadyac who gave up his 1019 00:42:28,430 --> 00:42:26,670 entire movie career and his fortune to 1020 00:42:32,390 --> 00:42:28,440 go live in a trailer and make the film I 1021 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:32,400 am he did liar liar and god almighty or 1022 00:42:36,740 --> 00:42:34,650 Bruce Almighty just up by Ace Ventura 1023 00:42:38,990 --> 00:42:36,750 pet detective he was the writer director 1024 00:42:41,300 --> 00:42:39,000 of that with Jim Carrey and he's a great 1025 00:42:44,180 --> 00:42:41,310 example of the level of consciousness 1026 00:42:47,090 --> 00:42:44,190 that is infiltrating Hollywood and but 1027 00:42:49,550 --> 00:42:47,100 rather than stand in the pulpit and and 1028 00:42:51,530 --> 00:42:49,560 shout out against how wrong and 1029 00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:51,540 unconscious and evil and deviant 1030 00:42:55,880 --> 00:42:53,610 everybody in this media business is 1031 00:42:58,250 --> 00:42:55,890 these people are quietly making changes 1032 00:43:00,650 --> 00:42:58,260 and the changes don't it's just like any 1033 00:43:02,900 --> 00:43:00,660 kind of a big ship and I spent a long 1034 00:43:04,700 --> 00:43:02,910 time being a radical thinking that you 1035 00:43:06,350 --> 00:43:04,710 just had to make a lot of noise and and 1036 00:43:09,770 --> 00:43:06,360 and that maybe you could force that ship 1037 00:43:13,070 --> 00:43:09,780 to change and in my in my older times 1038 00:43:15,980 --> 00:43:13,080 now I'm realizing that change is 1039 00:43:17,870 --> 00:43:15,990 effected by taking the existing system 1040 00:43:20,390 --> 00:43:17,880 and doing what you can to influence it 1041 00:43:22,340 --> 00:43:20,400 and so to Hollywood's defense there are 1042 00:43:24,740 --> 00:43:22,350 a lot of people out here trying to do it 1043 00:43:27,710 --> 00:43:24,750 and frankly you know I've talked to 1044 00:43:29,870 --> 00:43:27,720 chief executives at Sony all these 1045 00:43:31,340 --> 00:43:29,880 people will tell you the same thing in 1046 00:43:33,290 --> 00:43:31,350 fact I interviewed a guy named Don levy 1047 00:43:36,110 --> 00:43:33,300 who's one of the big guys in Sony 1048 00:43:37,670 --> 00:43:36,120 animation I've interviewed people from 1049 00:43:40,820 --> 00:43:37,680 DreamWorks I've talked to a lot of 1050 00:43:42,500 --> 00:43:40,830 really big well-known people and they 1051 00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:42,510 all say the same thing when the people 1052 00:43:48,530 --> 00:43:45,690 wanted will deliver it and Oprah has 1053 00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:48,540 made a valiant effort to bring conscious 1054 00:43:52,490 --> 00:43:50,730 programming to the mainstream and people 1055 00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:52,500 aren't watching you know it's very sad 1056 00:43:58,220 --> 00:43:55,490 but her spiritual shows and her her 1057 00:44:00,170 --> 00:43:58,230 meaningful conscious media stuff all of 1058 00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:00,180 us are like this is it this is the the 1059 00:44:03,950 --> 00:44:02,130 ultimate of the kind of material that we 1060 00:44:06,170 --> 00:44:03,960 want to produce and deliver but it's not 1061 00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:06,180 finding an audience and you know so 1062 00:44:09,710 --> 00:44:07,770 you've got to look at the broader social 1063 00:44:12,580 --> 00:44:09,720 issues you can't blame Hollywood these 1064 00:44:15,260 --> 00:44:12,590 guys are in the business of making stuff 1065 00:44:17,450 --> 00:44:15,270 that in between they sell toilet paper 1066 00:44:19,490 --> 00:44:17,460 and so what we do is filler for what 1067 00:44:22,100 --> 00:44:19,500 they do and if an audience is going to 1068 00:44:23,270 --> 00:44:22,110 watch a shark attack over a spiritual 1069 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:23,280 experience with dolphins 1070 00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:25,050 you can't blame Hollywood for giving 1071 00:44:29,270 --> 00:44:26,730 them another shark attack 1072 00:44:30,770 --> 00:44:29,280 and so that being said there's plenty of 1073 00:44:32,990 --> 00:44:30,780 people in this industry that are slowly 1074 00:44:35,329 --> 00:44:33,000 effecting change and you see it coming 1075 00:44:37,790 --> 00:44:35,339 out in mainstream shows you see it 1076 00:44:39,260 --> 00:44:37,800 coming out subtly in other shows but 1077 00:44:41,270 --> 00:44:39,270 what we really need is for the public to 1078 00:44:42,710 --> 00:44:41,280 get out there and to support the people 1079 00:44:44,270 --> 00:44:42,720 that are trying to do this work and 1080 00:44:45,740 --> 00:44:44,280 frankly gene they're not doing it 1081 00:44:48,050 --> 00:44:45,750 they're not doing it in the kind of 1082 00:44:50,240 --> 00:44:48,060 numbers that it takes to make it to make 1083 00:44:52,579 --> 00:44:50,250 it mainstream when Oprah can get on with 1084 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:52,589 a whole masterclass with Deepak Chopra 1085 00:44:56,990 --> 00:44:54,690 and Tony Robbins and a number of other 1086 00:44:59,420 --> 00:44:57,000 of today's greatest spiritual luminaries 1087 00:45:01,010 --> 00:44:59,430 and it gets so low ratings that they 1088 00:45:02,930 --> 00:45:01,020 have to refund half the advertising 1089 00:45:04,790 --> 00:45:02,940 money it's there's something wrong with 1090 00:45:06,349 --> 00:45:04,800 the picture and the pin and the people 1091 00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:06,359 in Hollywood and the people creating the 1092 00:45:10,849 --> 00:45:09,210 media it's not them that they're just a 1093 00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:10,859 reflection of the society that we live 1094 00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:13,050 in so we need this whole elevation of 1095 00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:15,690 society in order to have more and more 1096 00:45:20,089 --> 00:45:18,450 media doing it and guys like me that 1097 00:45:21,980 --> 00:45:20,099 have been producing conscious stuff for 1098 00:45:23,750 --> 00:45:21,990 a really really long time and not making 1099 00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:23,760 a lot of money doing it but continuing 1100 00:45:28,579 --> 00:45:25,770 with it those are the guys that are 1101 00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:28,589 moving it forward but there's there is 1102 00:45:33,109 --> 00:45:30,720 not a huge living in it if I if I were 1103 00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:33,119 to stop what I'm doing right now and go 1104 00:45:36,890 --> 00:45:35,130 make the next Girls Gone Wild I'd be 1105 00:45:37,819 --> 00:45:36,900 rich by this time next year beyond my 1106 00:45:39,710 --> 00:45:37,829 wildest dreams 1107 00:45:42,710 --> 00:45:39,720 will you come up with a good idea what 1108 00:45:44,990 --> 00:45:42,720 was that Victoria's oh yeah Victoria's 1109 00:45:47,510 --> 00:45:45,000 Secret paranormal investigations yeah so 1110 00:45:50,180 --> 00:45:47,520 the idea is that because I'm trying to 1111 00:45:51,950 --> 00:45:50,190 fuse conscious media with the mainstream 1112 00:45:54,020 --> 00:45:51,960 appetite so I'm trying to figure out 1113 00:45:56,290 --> 00:45:54,030 ways to make conscious entertainment 1114 00:46:00,170 --> 00:45:56,300 sexy right so we have a show about 1115 00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:00,180 spiritual enlightenment yoga good 1116 00:46:05,180 --> 00:46:02,970 nutrition only it's with hot babes and 1117 00:46:11,630 --> 00:46:05,190 lingerie so you get to watch as they 1118 00:46:14,690 --> 00:46:11,640 actually evolve listen to you I think 1119 00:46:18,470 --> 00:46:14,700 one issue that we see here and that is 1120 00:46:22,099 --> 00:46:18,480 it's not just producing the great shows 1121 00:46:23,660 --> 00:46:22,109 and movies TV shows it is the promotion 1122 00:46:25,609 --> 00:46:23,670 it is the tie-ins 1123 00:46:27,770 --> 00:46:25,619 I mean you look at a movie like Man of 1124 00:46:29,690 --> 00:46:27,780 Steel supposedly they've spent like a 1125 00:46:33,410 --> 00:46:29,700 hundred fifty or a hundred sixty million 1126 00:46:37,069 --> 00:46:33,420 dollars in product placement you have 1127 00:46:40,100 --> 00:46:37,079 all these major companies from fast-food 1128 00:46:42,140 --> 00:46:40,110 places like Carl's jr. to Sears 1129 00:46:45,020 --> 00:46:42,150 involved in the marketing and promotion 1130 00:46:47,450 --> 00:46:45,030 of this movie and that's you know a 1131 00:46:50,780 --> 00:46:47,460 tentpole kind of blockbuster summer 1132 00:46:53,660 --> 00:46:50,790 movie but what about the kind of shows 1133 00:46:56,930 --> 00:46:53,670 you're talking about conscious media all 1134 00:46:59,780 --> 00:46:56,940 that stuff will the studio's put that 1135 00:47:02,390 --> 00:46:59,790 money into the promotion of those things 1136 00:47:04,730 --> 00:47:02,400 they can't just take off if you just let 1137 00:47:08,420 --> 00:47:04,740 them lay out there and all right 1138 00:47:11,300 --> 00:47:08,430 whatever they are I mean NBC recently 1139 00:47:13,340 --> 00:47:11,310 bought Gaiam TV that movie three magic 1140 00:47:15,170 --> 00:47:13,350 wishes which was a lot of people thought 1141 00:47:16,790 --> 00:47:15,180 it was as influential as the secret was 1142 00:47:19,010 --> 00:47:16,800 picked up for distribution by Warner 1143 00:47:21,050 --> 00:47:19,020 Brothers there are people in the big 1144 00:47:22,340 --> 00:47:21,060 studios that want to be a part of this 1145 00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:22,350 they know what's going on they're having 1146 00:47:26,510 --> 00:47:24,090 their own spiritual thing you go to 1147 00:47:28,010 --> 00:47:26,520 Hollywood parties and enlightenment is 1148 00:47:29,450 --> 00:47:28,020 the buzzword and there's a lot of people 1149 00:47:32,510 --> 00:47:29,460 that are walking it and not just talking 1150 00:47:33,530 --> 00:47:32,520 it but again and the studios are going 1151 00:47:35,570 --> 00:47:33,540 to put money where they know they're 1152 00:47:37,790 --> 00:47:35,580 gonna get money back if if you could 1153 00:47:39,260 --> 00:47:37,800 figure out a way to make the world a 1154 00:47:41,240 --> 00:47:39,270 better place and lighten the planet 1155 00:47:43,610 --> 00:47:41,250 teach a wonderful spiritual lesson and 1156 00:47:45,350 --> 00:47:43,620 sell coca-cola toilet paper and Big Macs 1157 00:47:46,970 --> 00:47:45,360 you would have you would have it made 1158 00:47:50,090 --> 00:47:46,980 and unfortunately that's what it is the 1159 00:47:52,370 --> 00:47:50,100 mainstream media machine is fed and made 1160 00:47:54,140 --> 00:47:52,380 possible by the same people that are 1161 00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:54,150 feeding us bad food the same companies 1162 00:47:58,970 --> 00:47:56,370 that are that are that are modifying our 1163 00:48:00,890 --> 00:47:58,980 foods the same political system that is 1164 00:48:03,770 --> 00:48:00,900 causing all of the problems on this 1165 00:48:07,100 --> 00:48:03,780 planet so again the the media that we're 1166 00:48:08,930 --> 00:48:07,110 being fed is not a result of these 1167 00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:08,940 people that are trying to control us 1168 00:48:12,410 --> 00:48:10,410 they're a result of these people that 1169 00:48:14,660 --> 00:48:12,420 are business people giving us what we've 1170 00:48:16,490 --> 00:48:14,670 been conditioned to want so this change 1171 00:48:17,660 --> 00:48:16,500 has to happen it all comes down to the 1172 00:48:19,790 --> 00:48:17,670 same thing it has to happen on a 1173 00:48:22,580 --> 00:48:19,800 grassroots basis it has to happen person 1174 00:48:24,470 --> 00:48:22,590 by person and when you change the person 1175 00:48:26,450 --> 00:48:24,480 out there changes to the point where 1176 00:48:29,210 --> 00:48:26,460 they would rather watch Oprah than Kim 1177 00:48:31,070 --> 00:48:29,220 Kardashian then there'll be more Oprah's 1178 00:48:32,720 --> 00:48:31,080 there'll be more channels dedicated to 1179 00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:32,730 making the world a better place but 1180 00:48:36,380 --> 00:48:34,290 right now it's not happening and so 1181 00:48:38,390 --> 00:48:36,390 people can say well you know that that 1182 00:48:40,130 --> 00:48:38,400 Hollywood machine is just feeding us 1183 00:48:40,850 --> 00:48:40,140 crap it's well people are pretty much 1184 00:48:43,100 --> 00:48:40,860 used to it 1185 00:48:44,900 --> 00:48:43,110 and they have the power only they have 1186 00:48:46,370 --> 00:48:44,910 the power you can't tell Hollywood start 1187 00:48:46,850 --> 00:48:46,380 making better stuff and we'll learn to 1188 00:48:48,680 --> 00:48:46,860 like it 1189 00:48:50,900 --> 00:48:48,690 the Hollywood's gonna make what people 1190 00:48:52,880 --> 00:48:50,910 show that they like and that's their 1191 00:48:53,430 --> 00:48:52,890 business just like anyone else if you 1192 00:48:55,740 --> 00:48:53,440 were doing 1193 00:48:57,990 --> 00:48:55,750 Oh show about a subject nobody wanted to 1194 00:48:59,579 --> 00:48:58,000 hear about you'd have to decide do I 1195 00:49:01,890 --> 00:48:59,589 want to keep doing a radio show or do I 1196 00:49:03,030 --> 00:49:01,900 quit and most people are gonna say okay 1197 00:49:04,680 --> 00:49:03,040 I'll just do a radio show about 1198 00:49:06,569 --> 00:49:04,690 something thing that somebody wants to 1199 00:49:09,059 --> 00:49:06,579 hear you know when we talk about 1200 00:49:10,829 --> 00:49:09,069 changing the process we move on to the 1201 00:49:13,170 --> 00:49:10,839 the Citizen hearing on disclosure that 1202 00:49:15,839 --> 00:49:13,180 just happened and it's a magnificent 1203 00:49:17,400 --> 00:49:15,849 example of how the people that are 1204 00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:17,410 really going to affect change in our 1205 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:19,510 society and again aren't the ones that 1206 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:20,770 are going to stand on the corner and 1207 00:49:23,819 --> 00:49:22,450 scream they're not the Sedona people 1208 00:49:25,650 --> 00:49:23,829 standing on the corner going though I 1209 00:49:27,630 --> 00:49:25,660 live in Sedona I'm enlightened the rest 1210 00:49:29,609 --> 00:49:27,640 of the world is falling apart you know I 1211 00:49:32,910 --> 00:49:29,619 lived there for seven years and I still 1212 00:49:34,650 --> 00:49:32,920 shake my head the people that are going 1213 00:49:36,780 --> 00:49:34,660 to affect the change are the people that 1214 00:49:40,980 --> 00:49:36,790 are getting into the system as it works 1215 00:49:44,339 --> 00:49:40,990 and using the existing process to move 1216 00:49:45,300 --> 00:49:44,349 the wheel of this huge ship that is the 1217 00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:45,310 course of humanity 1218 00:49:49,530 --> 00:49:48,010 little by little piece by piece the 1219 00:49:51,569 --> 00:49:49,540 Citizen hearing on disclosure we could 1220 00:49:54,720 --> 00:49:51,579 talk about it's more to me was the 1221 00:49:57,300 --> 00:49:54,730 shining example of how you enter into 1222 00:49:59,190 --> 00:49:57,310 the current system and you make a splash 1223 00:50:02,190 --> 00:49:59,200 and you make a wave and you get people 1224 00:50:04,050 --> 00:50:02,200 talking it's a fantastic example of how 1225 00:50:06,150 --> 00:50:04,060 people can affect change it's a great 1226 00:50:09,900 --> 00:50:06,160 example of what conscious media really 1227 00:50:11,250 --> 00:50:09,910 is and I think that maybe analyzing that 1228 00:50:13,859 --> 00:50:11,260 a little bit and looking at what it was 1229 00:50:16,740 --> 00:50:13,869 might help us to see clearly the path 1230 00:50:18,390 --> 00:50:16,750 for the future now Chris and I had a 1231 00:50:20,460 --> 00:50:18,400 couple of shows covering the Citizen 1232 00:50:21,750 --> 00:50:20,470 hearing on disclosure and we talked 1233 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:21,760 about the positives and there were a lot 1234 00:50:26,250 --> 00:50:23,770 of positives and we talked about some of 1235 00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:26,260 the negatives and whether if we got rid 1236 00:50:29,550 --> 00:50:27,970 of those negatives we might have had a 1237 00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:29,560 much better result and this is something 1238 00:50:34,620 --> 00:50:31,690 I'll ask you about and of course you 1239 00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:34,630 were a hired hand you did the filming or 1240 00:50:39,660 --> 00:50:37,210 a videotaping or digital recording of 1241 00:50:41,790 --> 00:50:39,670 the proceedings and Chris worked with 1242 00:50:44,819 --> 00:50:41,800 you on that so we know that part of it 1243 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:44,829 was well done and we'll want to focus 1244 00:50:51,359 --> 00:50:48,130 maybe in our next segment about how you 1245 00:50:55,950 --> 00:50:51,369 got involved how you set things up and 1246 00:50:57,839 --> 00:50:55,960 maybe more important here where do we go 1247 00:50:59,760 --> 00:50:57,849 from here what lessons that we learned 1248 00:51:01,920 --> 00:50:59,770 about the good parts of the Citizen 1249 00:51:03,150 --> 00:51:01,930 hearing on disclosure what do we learn 1250 00:51:06,060 --> 00:51:03,160 about the parts that have been 1251 00:51:09,810 --> 00:51:06,070 criticized and how do we go forward 1252 00:51:11,970 --> 00:51:09,820 in making people interested and things 1253 00:51:14,820 --> 00:51:11,980 like that more interested because 1254 00:51:16,830 --> 00:51:14,830 obviously they're interested in the 1255 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:16,840 wacky TV shows especially the reality 1256 00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:18,970 shows which I can't understand by the 1257 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:20,650 way I guess people like to see car 1258 00:51:25,140 --> 00:51:23,410 crashes so they want to see wacky things 1259 00:51:27,870 --> 00:51:25,150 going on TV we'll get into more of that 1260 00:51:31,170 --> 00:51:27,880 in a moment we have Ron James producer 1261 00:51:33,390 --> 00:51:31,180 we have Chris O'Brien and we have Jean 1262 00:51:41,210 --> 00:51:33,400 Steinberg because you're in the para 1263 00:51:43,680 --> 00:51:41,220 cast America's number one source for 1264 00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:43,690 independent authoring so for over a 1265 00:51:49,830 --> 00:51:44,650 decade 1266 00:51:51,540 --> 00:51:49,840 we are the gcn radio 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00:52:19,780 that's juicy and live.com hi this is Ted 1281 00:52:23,100 --> 00:52:21,070 Anderson have you ever wondered why 1282 00:52:25,050 --> 00:52:23,110 banks stockbrokers investment advisors 1283 00:52:27,420 --> 00:52:25,060 won't talk about gold IRAs they've been 1284 00:52:29,130 --> 00:52:27,430 available since 1986 yet the financial 1285 00:52:30,810 --> 00:52:29,140 industry won't recognize the value of 1286 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:30,820 gold for your retirement goal does 1287 00:52:34,860 --> 00:52:33,010 outperform paper investments yet no word 1288 00:52:47,360 --> 00:52:34,870 about IRAs if you would like to have 1289 00:53:02,530 --> 00:53:00,940 806-853-9949 US government band 1290 00:53:04,569 --> 00:53:02,540 him plan from growing in the United 1291 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:04,579 States and classified it as a Schedule 1292 00:53:08,530 --> 00:53:06,770 one drug to hide it behind the marijuana 1293 00:53:10,990 --> 00:53:08,540 plan people have been confused about 1294 00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:11,000 this plan for over 80 years and many 1295 00:53:15,579 --> 00:53:13,490 still don't know what hemp is so now you 1296 00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:15,589 know him it's not marijuana and 1297 00:53:19,839 --> 00:53:18,079 marijuana is not him they are different 1298 00:53:22,180 --> 00:53:19,849 varieties of the same species 1299 00:53:24,190 --> 00:53:22,190 hemp usa.org wants the world to know 1300 00:53:26,290 --> 00:53:24,200 these basic facts and to help people 1301 00:53:28,390 --> 00:53:26,300 understand that him protein powder is 1302 00:53:30,849 --> 00:53:28,400 the best kept health secret you need to 1303 00:53:33,190 --> 00:53:30,859 know about remember him protein powder 1304 00:53:36,010 --> 00:53:33,200 contains 53 percent protein he's 1305 00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:36,020 gluten-free anti inflammatory non GMO 1306 00:53:40,630 --> 00:53:38,690 and is loaded with nutrients call eight 1307 00:53:42,670 --> 00:53:40,640 eight eight nine one zero four three six 1308 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:42,680 seven eight eight eight nine zero four 1309 00:53:47,079 --> 00:53:45,050 three six seven and see what our powders 1310 00:53:52,140 --> 00:53:47,089 seeds and oil can do for you 1311 00:53:52,150 --> 00:53:56,370 [Applause] 1312 00:54:04,410 --> 00:54:00,069 welcome back to the para cast the gold 1313 00:54:12,519 --> 00:54:04,420 standard of paranormal radio and now 1314 00:54:14,620 --> 00:54:12,529 here's Jane Steinberg with gene and 1315 00:54:16,779 --> 00:54:14,630 Chris and Chris of course is at Laguna 1316 00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:16,789 Beach California having a whale of a 1317 00:54:20,170 --> 00:54:18,890 time with dolphins not whales maybe 1318 00:54:20,469 --> 00:54:20,180 they're whales they're - we'll have to 1319 00:54:23,529 --> 00:54:20,479 see 1320 00:54:27,069 --> 00:54:23,539 we have Ron James producer and before we 1321 00:54:29,469 --> 00:54:27,079 broke for few pieces of business I asked 1322 00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:29,479 Ron a rather involved question about the 1323 00:54:33,640 --> 00:54:31,609 Citizen hearing on disclosure about the 1324 00:54:35,859 --> 00:54:33,650 impact and the potential for the future 1325 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:35,869 but before we go on let's start at the 1326 00:54:39,370 --> 00:54:36,410 beginning 1327 00:54:41,890 --> 00:54:39,380 Ron how did you get involved in it well 1328 00:54:45,309 --> 00:54:41,900 you know oddly enough it was about maybe 1329 00:54:47,140 --> 00:54:45,319 five years ago six years ago that I met 1330 00:54:49,509 --> 00:54:47,150 Steven Bassett actually through Chris 1331 00:54:51,339 --> 00:54:49,519 O'Brien in Sedona there was some event 1332 00:54:52,930 --> 00:54:51,349 that Steve was at and we went and filmed 1333 00:54:55,630 --> 00:54:52,940 it and we shot interviews Kerry Cassidy 1334 00:54:57,729 --> 00:54:55,640 interviewed him and I interviewed him in 1335 00:54:59,289 --> 00:54:57,739 the same sitting and that was my 1336 00:55:01,509 --> 00:54:59,299 introduction to Steve and since then 1337 00:55:03,519 --> 00:55:01,519 I've produced a boatload of media with 1338 00:55:05,439 --> 00:55:03,529 them we did the two X conferences 1339 00:55:08,019 --> 00:55:05,449 together my film the Disclosure 1340 00:55:11,170 --> 00:55:08,029 dialogues it could happen tomorrow that 1341 00:55:15,160 --> 00:55:11,180 one won best UFO feature film and 1342 00:55:18,430 --> 00:55:15,170 People's Choice Award at the 2012 EBE 1343 00:55:21,130 --> 00:55:18,440 Awards down at open minds in Phoenix 1344 00:55:22,959 --> 00:55:21,140 there's a banner for that film on your 1345 00:55:24,519 --> 00:55:22,969 website - I see you still have up there 1346 00:55:27,069 --> 00:55:24,529 so if anybody's interested in it they 1347 00:55:29,410 --> 00:55:27,079 can check it out there so naturally when 1348 00:55:31,689 --> 00:55:29,420 Citizen hearing came along Steve brought 1349 00:55:33,519 --> 00:55:31,699 me in at the very beginning to be 1350 00:55:35,380 --> 00:55:33,529 associate producer and part of the 1351 00:55:37,299 --> 00:55:35,390 production team the thing about the 1352 00:55:39,430 --> 00:55:37,309 Citizen hearing was that Steve had 1353 00:55:42,729 --> 00:55:39,440 always had this vision of this very 1354 00:55:45,099 --> 00:55:42,739 formal event that was modeled as closely 1355 00:55:47,529 --> 00:55:45,109 as possible to a actual congressional 1356 00:55:49,749 --> 00:55:47,539 hearing and done in a very orderly way 1357 00:55:52,180 --> 00:55:49,759 and done in such a way that the format 1358 00:55:54,279 --> 00:55:52,190 would be recognizable by people in 1359 00:55:56,349 --> 00:55:54,289 positions of power and right up until 1360 00:55:58,269 --> 00:55:56,359 the last minute he was pulling his hair 1361 00:56:00,519 --> 00:55:58,279 out just thinking you know I hope I've 1362 00:56:02,650 --> 00:56:00,529 done this and for all of its positives 1363 00:56:05,859 --> 00:56:02,660 and all of its negatives it was a it was 1364 00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:05,869 a fantastic event the evidence was put 1365 00:56:10,030 --> 00:56:08,810 forth there's so many people that say 1366 00:56:11,800 --> 00:56:10,040 and I've heard this before I've heard it 1367 00:56:13,900 --> 00:56:11,810 about paranormal phenomenon and I've 1368 00:56:16,990 --> 00:56:13,910 especially heard it about UFO related 1369 00:56:19,030 --> 00:56:17,000 phenomenon and that saying is is that if 1370 00:56:21,190 --> 00:56:19,040 all of this collected evidence was ever 1371 00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:21,200 presented to a jury in a court of law 1372 00:56:26,410 --> 00:56:24,050 they would have no choice but to upon 1373 00:56:30,190 --> 00:56:26,420 the preponderance of the evidence to say 1374 00:56:32,500 --> 00:56:30,200 that yes there absolutely is a cover-up 1375 00:56:34,810 --> 00:56:32,510 a deception and there absolutely is life 1376 00:56:37,900 --> 00:56:34,820 coming from somewhere other than our 1377 00:56:40,300 --> 00:56:37,910 knowledge of this planet so this was 1378 00:56:42,940 --> 00:56:40,310 that I mean this was the opportunity for 1379 00:56:45,550 --> 00:56:42,950 as close as you're ever going to see to 1380 00:56:47,230 --> 00:56:45,560 have that evidence presented in as close 1381 00:56:50,740 --> 00:56:47,240 to a court of law as it was going to get 1382 00:56:52,750 --> 00:56:50,750 this assumption and this saying actually 1383 00:56:54,730 --> 00:56:52,760 materialized into something where yeah 1384 00:56:56,320 --> 00:56:54,740 we actually got former members of 1385 00:56:57,760 --> 00:56:56,330 Congress very some of them very 1386 00:57:01,270 --> 00:56:57,770 illustrious former members of Congress 1387 00:57:02,530 --> 00:57:01,280 to come and conduct this thing and even 1388 00:57:03,790 --> 00:57:02,540 though they weren't active members of 1389 00:57:06,310 --> 00:57:03,800 Congress and even though it was at the 1390 00:57:09,100 --> 00:57:06,320 Press Club and not in Congress the look 1391 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:09,110 in the feel the order and the way in 1392 00:57:14,140 --> 00:57:11,210 which the evidence was presented was 1393 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:14,150 nothing like it has ever been done Steve 1394 00:57:17,950 --> 00:57:16,490 is of the idea that you know this whole 1395 00:57:20,110 --> 00:57:17,960 citizen hearing thing it doesn't just 1396 00:57:22,030 --> 00:57:20,120 have to be UFOs when there's an issue 1397 00:57:24,160 --> 00:57:22,040 that that we need to deal with as a 1398 00:57:26,110 --> 00:57:24,170 society and as a country and as a group 1399 00:57:27,940 --> 00:57:26,120 of people that's not being handled by 1400 00:57:29,820 --> 00:57:27,950 our lawmakers perhaps this is the 1401 00:57:32,590 --> 00:57:29,830 beginning of a whole new genre of 1402 00:57:35,950 --> 00:57:32,600 resolution the citizen hearing could be 1403 00:57:38,140 --> 00:57:35,960 something that resonates and is 1404 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:38,150 duplicated through a whole variety of 1405 00:57:41,350 --> 00:57:39,770 subjects you know let's have citizen 1406 00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:41,360 hearings on nuclear power let's have 1407 00:57:45,100 --> 00:57:43,250 citizen hearings on whether or not we 1408 00:57:47,470 --> 00:57:45,110 want the NSA tapping our phones let's 1409 00:57:49,060 --> 00:57:47,480 have citizen hearings on what we really 1410 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:49,070 want to do about our issues with Iran 1411 00:57:53,920 --> 00:57:51,170 and the Middle East our political system 1412 00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:53,930 is failing us and so this citizen 1413 00:58:00,100 --> 00:57:56,570 hearing model is something that has 1414 00:58:02,020 --> 00:58:00,110 shown that you can go and do things in 1415 00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:02,030 the manner that the system is used to 1416 00:58:06,250 --> 00:58:03,770 and perhaps you're going to affect a 1417 00:58:08,590 --> 00:58:06,260 little more change it got less ridicule 1418 00:58:11,020 --> 00:58:08,600 and more positive press and any UFO 1419 00:58:12,790 --> 00:58:11,030 conference ever ever wanted to have it 1420 00:58:14,980 --> 00:58:12,800 found its way into more mainstream news 1421 00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:14,990 than anything and most of the coverage 1422 00:58:18,250 --> 00:58:16,730 was reasonable I mean people weren't 1423 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:18,260 laughing at us anymore people were 1424 00:58:22,390 --> 00:58:20,090 saying wow you know maybe there's 1425 00:58:24,940 --> 00:58:22,400 something to this these former members 1426 00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:24,950 issued an official document they called 1427 00:58:28,630 --> 00:58:26,810 for the UN to open up formal 1428 00:58:30,820 --> 00:58:28,640 investigations into what's going on with 1429 00:58:33,220 --> 00:58:30,830 this topic and they did a few other 1430 00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:33,230 things like write formal requests for 1431 00:58:37,180 --> 00:58:35,090 burrows to get his medical records back 1432 00:58:39,910 --> 00:58:37,190 things like that so the Citizen hearing 1433 00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:39,920 is as shiny as an example of what can be 1434 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:42,650 done when people say okay how could we 1435 00:58:47,500 --> 00:58:44,690 work within this system to effect change 1436 00:58:49,210 --> 00:58:47,510 and how could we how could we do this in 1437 00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:49,220 a way that is going to get some 1438 00:58:54,010 --> 00:58:52,370 attention and didn't light the world on 1439 00:58:57,130 --> 00:58:54,020 fire to the point we wanted it to 1440 00:58:59,230 --> 00:58:57,140 however it is a historic event and it's 1441 00:59:01,060 --> 00:58:59,240 still resonating people care still going 1442 00:59:02,860 --> 00:59:01,070 online to the archives and watching them 1443 00:59:05,560 --> 00:59:02,870 newspaper articles are still being 1444 00:59:08,410 --> 00:59:05,570 written and the event is still being 1445 00:59:10,890 --> 00:59:08,420 talked about and in the halls of 1446 00:59:13,330 --> 00:59:10,900 Congress Ward is phone calls were made 1447 00:59:15,850 --> 00:59:13,340 louis farrakhan showed up at this thing 1448 00:59:17,740 --> 00:59:15,860 and supposedly he met Roger Leir in the 1449 00:59:18,940 --> 00:59:17,750 restaurant and when Roger Leir ran into 1450 00:59:20,920 --> 00:59:18,950 him he was on the phone with President 1451 00:59:23,860 --> 00:59:20,930 Obama giving him the lowdown on what was 1452 00:59:26,980 --> 00:59:23,870 going on so we know that rather our work 1453 00:59:29,500 --> 00:59:26,990 is visible or not this format affected 1454 00:59:32,200 --> 00:59:29,510 the political process in a way that has 1455 00:59:34,660 --> 00:59:32,210 not been done yet and so because of that 1456 00:59:37,090 --> 00:59:34,670 it's both a victory for the movement and 1457 00:59:39,790 --> 00:59:37,100 a shining example of how to facilitate 1458 00:59:42,970 --> 00:59:39,800 change in progress you understand the 1459 00:59:46,330 --> 00:59:42,980 criticisms made about it that maybe 90 1460 00:59:48,760 --> 00:59:46,340 95 percent of the presenters were very 1461 00:59:51,340 --> 00:59:48,770 credible but a few when we know their 1462 00:59:52,780 --> 00:59:51,350 names were not so credible well you know 1463 00:59:55,270 --> 00:59:52,790 I mean there was a lot of people that 1464 00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:55,280 wanted to present the two Steve's credit 1465 00:59:58,390 --> 00:59:57,170 he absolutely did not let them show up 1466 00:59:59,710 --> 00:59:58,400 and some of them are making a lot of 1467 01:00:02,890 --> 00:59:59,720 noise and all I can say to that is 1468 01:00:04,900 --> 01:00:02,900 boohoo some people who were there that 1469 01:00:07,180 --> 01:00:04,910 maybe we would have preferred not to be 1470 01:00:08,680 --> 01:00:07,190 there for similar reasons well you know 1471 01:00:10,900 --> 01:00:08,690 you kind of have to look at it like this 1472 01:00:12,610 --> 01:00:10,910 Bill Clinton was a pretty good president 1473 01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:12,620 was he always honest a hundred percent 1474 01:00:17,230 --> 01:00:14,930 of the time well no but does that negate 1475 01:00:18,610 --> 01:00:17,240 his presidency some of these people that 1476 01:00:21,310 --> 01:00:18,620 were talking about have made tremendous 1477 01:00:22,930 --> 01:00:21,320 contributions rather they've done things 1478 01:00:26,530 --> 01:00:22,940 that may or not be completely credible 1479 01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:26,540 so because of certain other media 1480 01:00:30,340 --> 01:00:28,370 projects and certain collaborations 1481 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:30,350 there were some people there and we were 1482 01:00:34,090 --> 01:00:32,330 happy to have them and you could always 1483 01:00:35,569 --> 01:00:34,100 attack somebody's character but you know 1484 01:00:37,130 --> 01:00:35,579 if you if you look at the body of the 1485 01:00:39,109 --> 01:00:37,140 work almost all of these people have 1486 01:00:40,519 --> 01:00:39,119 made contributions you might not agree 1487 01:00:43,219 --> 01:00:40,529 with everything they might not have 1488 01:00:46,940 --> 01:00:43,229 always been 100% on the up-and-up but 1489 01:00:49,849 --> 01:00:46,950 really who is yeah face it steven greer 1490 01:00:51,620 --> 01:00:49,859 has problems very serious problems with 1491 01:00:53,359 --> 01:00:51,630 the stuff he's done lately yes he's done 1492 01:00:56,239 --> 01:00:53,369 some interesting stuff with regard to 1493 01:00:59,839 --> 01:00:56,249 UFO disclosure early on but i think he 1494 01:01:02,029 --> 01:00:59,849 corrupted that message severely and i 1495 01:01:04,640 --> 01:01:02,039 would HIGHLY question as did a lot of 1496 01:01:06,920 --> 01:01:04,650 people having him at this event i think 1497 01:01:10,339 --> 01:01:06,930 without him the event could have gone on 1498 01:01:13,539 --> 01:01:10,349 just as well or better and maybe some of 1499 01:01:16,309 --> 01:01:13,549 the stench would have been gone well 1500 01:01:18,499 --> 01:01:16,319 chris and i put out the definitive film 1501 01:01:20,809 --> 01:01:18,509 on UFO disclosure and steven greer was 1502 01:01:23,029 --> 01:01:20,819 conspicuously absent from it and when i 1503 01:01:26,539 --> 01:01:23,039 met Steven Greer it was very apparent to 1504 01:01:28,279 --> 01:01:26,549 me that he knew it and so you know it's 1505 01:01:30,259 --> 01:01:28,289 like we all have our own personal 1506 01:01:33,049 --> 01:01:30,269 opinions I think that Steven Greer has a 1507 01:01:34,999 --> 01:01:33,059 certain amount of information everything 1508 01:01:36,709 --> 01:01:35,009 that he's done they're made there's good 1509 01:01:38,809 --> 01:01:36,719 and there's bad and there's completely 1510 01:01:41,749 --> 01:01:38,819 honest and there's questionable we all 1511 01:01:44,329 --> 01:01:41,759 know that however he is still a luminary 1512 01:01:46,400 --> 01:01:44,339 in the field and he still did have some 1513 01:01:48,140 --> 01:01:46,410 valuable information to contribute so 1514 01:01:50,029 --> 01:01:48,150 you know you kind of got to look at it 1515 01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:50,039 like that and I know there was a lot of 1516 01:01:53,599 --> 01:01:52,170 debate about rather or not that 1517 01:01:55,069 --> 01:01:53,609 particular person was going to be 1518 01:01:56,420 --> 01:01:55,079 involved but we worked with a month 1519 01:01:58,549 --> 01:01:56,430 serious I don't know if you know this or 1520 01:02:00,920 --> 01:01:58,559 not but I was the on-camera personality 1521 01:02:03,499 --> 01:02:00,930 that hosted the serious red carpet 1522 01:02:04,999 --> 01:02:03,509 premiere party for the webcast and so I 1523 01:02:07,189 --> 01:02:05,009 actually interviewed Steven Greer the 1524 01:02:09,079 --> 01:02:07,199 night of his film premiere it was the 1525 01:02:11,650 --> 01:02:09,089 first time I met him and it was it was 1526 01:02:13,579 --> 01:02:11,660 very funny everybody makes mistakes 1527 01:02:15,439 --> 01:02:13,589 Stevens been doing this for a really 1528 01:02:17,660 --> 01:02:15,449 long time he was doing it when there was 1529 01:02:20,059 --> 01:02:17,670 nothing in it whatsoever except a fight 1530 01:02:21,890 --> 01:02:20,069 and so you know I'm not going to defend 1531 01:02:23,809 --> 01:02:21,900 all the stuff that's out there or even 1532 01:02:25,699 --> 01:02:23,819 comment on it but at the end of the day 1533 01:02:28,009 --> 01:02:25,709 if that's the only thing wrong with the 1534 01:02:29,329 --> 01:02:28,019 Citizen hearing then hallelujah like 1535 01:02:31,370 --> 01:02:29,339 I've said many times on this show 1536 01:02:33,620 --> 01:02:31,380 Stevens message is more important than 1537 01:02:36,049 --> 01:02:33,630 he is when the problem is he came to 1538 01:02:37,849 --> 01:02:36,059 think that he was important and that the 1539 01:02:39,229 --> 01:02:37,859 message maybe was less important and 1540 01:02:41,239 --> 01:02:39,239 therefore if he's going to be the 1541 01:02:43,130 --> 01:02:41,249 messenger to deliver that message it 1542 01:02:46,370 --> 01:02:43,140 would be a problem the point being here 1543 01:02:48,589 --> 01:02:46,380 though we can agree to disagree I think 1544 01:02:49,329 --> 01:02:48,599 if he was out of the picture people like 1545 01:02:53,109 --> 01:02:49,339 that 1546 01:02:55,989 --> 01:02:53,119 pointed to wouldn't have happened maybe 1547 01:02:58,779 --> 01:02:55,999 a certain former government official in 1548 01:03:04,150 --> 01:02:58,789 Canada saying some wacky things in the 1549 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:04,160 final day quoting Jim sparks like I said 1550 01:03:10,719 --> 01:03:05,930 Jean I was trying to tickle my nose so I 1551 01:03:13,180 --> 01:03:10,729 could sneeze and do the but sounds like 1552 01:03:14,529 --> 01:03:13,190 my dog or my dog sneezes just like yeah 1553 01:03:17,289 --> 01:03:14,539 look there wasn't a person in that room 1554 01:03:19,089 --> 01:03:17,299 during Paul Hellyer's clothing that 1555 01:03:20,799 --> 01:03:19,099 wasn't just going oh my gosh oh my gosh 1556 01:03:24,029 --> 01:03:20,809 what what do we do I had a paper 1557 01:03:26,170 --> 01:03:24,039 airplane ready to launch his way but 1558 01:03:27,759 --> 01:03:26,180 actually I'm one of the on one of the 1559 01:03:29,259 --> 01:03:27,769 sessions I threw one at Richard Dolan 1560 01:03:30,759 --> 01:03:29,269 because he just kept going and going and 1561 01:03:32,259 --> 01:03:30,769 going or we all wanted to go home so I 1562 01:03:35,019 --> 01:03:32,269 just tossed a paper airplane at the 1563 01:03:38,529 --> 01:03:35,029 stage so you are an equal opportunity 1564 01:03:40,269 --> 01:03:38,539 paper airplane thrower believe me it's 1565 01:03:42,609 --> 01:03:40,279 hard to say five times fast we have Ron 1566 01:03:50,469 --> 01:03:42,619 James joining gene and Chris you're in 1567 01:03:52,630 --> 01:03:50,479 the borogoves attack of the rock AIDS 1568 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:52,640 has been well received by critics and 1569 01:03:57,489 --> 01:03:54,410 readers alike it's a thrill a minute 1570 01:03:59,859 --> 01:03:57,499 story you'll never forget a former US 1571 01:04:01,809 --> 01:03:59,869 military intelligence officer is haunted 1572 01:04:04,269 --> 01:04:01,819 by intense dreams about a beautiful 1573 01:04:07,420 --> 01:04:04,279 woman pleading for his help after a 1574 01:04:09,519 --> 01:04:07,430 terrible battle in outer space but the 1575 01:04:11,410 --> 01:04:09,529 dreams turn out to be true and thrust 1576 01:04:14,469 --> 01:04:11,420 him into a telepathic love affair with a 1577 01:04:16,839 --> 01:04:14,479 woman whose faraway planet is intent on 1578 01:04:19,660 --> 01:04:16,849 destroying the earth and now the 1579 01:04:22,120 --> 01:04:19,670 gripping tale continues in the coming of 1580 01:04:24,729 --> 01:04:22,130 the protectors it's the second book 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01:08:02,779 --> 01:07:59,459 para cast com 1651 01:08:04,910 --> 01:08:02,789 that's news at the para cast dot-com and 1652 01:08:08,089 --> 01:08:04,920 don't forget to visit our famous para 1653 01:08:12,469 --> 01:08:08,099 cast community forums at forum dot the 1654 01:08:14,479 --> 01:08:12,479 para cast comm we're returning to that 1655 01:08:17,390 --> 01:08:14,489 topic this isn't hearing on disclosure 1656 01:08:20,260 --> 01:08:17,400 with Jean and Chris Ron James joining us 1657 01:08:23,269 --> 01:08:20,270 he produced the video of it and Chris 1658 01:08:25,970 --> 01:08:23,279 helped them out let's just cover the 1659 01:08:28,430 --> 01:08:25,980 implications now so I've seen coverage 1660 01:08:29,660 --> 01:08:28,440 some of the coverage is quite favorable 1661 01:08:32,629 --> 01:08:29,670 the New York Times they're really good 1662 01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:32,639 story about the event some focus on the 1663 01:08:39,800 --> 01:08:35,489 luteal aspects of it we know the Lulu 1664 01:08:43,550 --> 01:08:39,810 aspects being okay not so much positive 1665 01:08:45,919 --> 01:08:43,560 but from here what is step two where do 1666 01:08:48,379 --> 01:08:45,929 we go from here Ron well up our sleeve 1667 01:08:49,939 --> 01:08:48,389 next is actually the contact D hearing 1668 01:08:52,789 --> 01:08:49,949 this the Citizen hearing on disclosure 1669 01:08:54,890 --> 01:08:52,799 was mainly people who had actual 1670 01:08:56,359 --> 01:08:54,900 evidence or knowledge of evidence about 1671 01:08:58,939 --> 01:08:56,369 government cover-ups if the whole issue 1672 01:09:00,490 --> 01:08:58,949 the next one is going to be contact D 1673 01:09:04,539 --> 01:09:00,500 based where people who have had 1674 01:09:06,579 --> 01:09:04,549 experiences and that type of evidentiary 1675 01:09:08,260 --> 01:09:06,589 presentations will happen 1676 01:09:10,380 --> 01:09:08,270 the citizen hearing itself sparked an 1677 01:09:13,270 --> 01:09:10,390 entire movement the Congress people 1678 01:09:15,940 --> 01:09:13,280 involved all put together letter the 1679 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:15,950 ones that could sign and put forth the 1680 01:09:19,510 --> 01:09:17,930 resolution that the UN should get 1681 01:09:21,460 --> 01:09:19,520 involved so there's there's people right 1682 01:09:22,930 --> 01:09:21,470 now working on getting the UN to open 1683 01:09:24,610 --> 01:09:22,940 formal investigations into what's going 1684 01:09:27,460 --> 01:09:24,620 on with the cover-up of this type of 1685 01:09:29,770 --> 01:09:27,470 phenomenon worldwide so that could be 1686 01:09:31,960 --> 01:09:29,780 huge what's really funny about what's 1687 01:09:36,220 --> 01:09:31,970 happening with the media is there has 1688 01:09:38,980 --> 01:09:36,230 been such an organized media effort of 1689 01:09:40,599 --> 01:09:38,990 ridicule for so long that the media 1690 01:09:43,210 --> 01:09:40,609 still does it but what they don't 1691 01:09:44,559 --> 01:09:43,220 understand is that 75% of the people in 1692 01:09:46,750 --> 01:09:44,569 this country I'm not sure the exact 1693 01:09:49,360 --> 01:09:46,760 statistic but that's that's about it I 1694 01:09:51,130 --> 01:09:49,370 have the idea that yeah there's probably 1695 01:09:52,540 --> 01:09:51,140 some sort of extraterrestrial 1696 01:09:53,980 --> 01:09:52,550 intervention with our planet and almost 1697 01:09:57,490 --> 01:09:53,990 a hundred percent believe there's life 1698 01:09:59,140 --> 01:09:57,500 in outer space yes Ron Ron the last poll 1699 01:10:01,480 --> 01:09:59,150 I saw was one that came out in 1700 01:10:03,250 --> 01:10:01,490 connection with the chasing UFOs show 1701 01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:03,260 that was commissioned by National 1702 01:10:09,610 --> 01:10:06,530 Geographic one third of America believes 1703 01:10:12,280 --> 01:10:09,620 in UFOs UFOs in their interpretation 1704 01:10:13,540 --> 01:10:12,290 being spaceships so it's not 2/3 it's 1705 01:10:16,420 --> 01:10:13,550 not 75% 1706 01:10:18,760 --> 01:10:16,430 it used to be 50% back in the 90s and 1707 01:10:20,410 --> 01:10:18,770 80s etc well you have to look at 1708 01:10:22,810 --> 01:10:20,420 National Geographic for one thing 1709 01:10:24,010 --> 01:10:22,820 they're the rigidus most scientific of 1710 01:10:25,810 --> 01:10:24,020 the channels if you look at their 1711 01:10:28,360 --> 01:10:25,820 programming it's always skewed that way 1712 01:10:30,700 --> 01:10:28,370 so that and then putting out a poll on 1713 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:30,710 the heels of arguably the most Fiasco of 1714 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:32,930 a UFO television show I mean chasing 1715 01:10:39,220 --> 01:10:36,890 UFOs and guys jumping over fences it's 1716 01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:39,230 almost like going to the circus and 1717 01:10:44,170 --> 01:10:41,810 putting out a thing about who likes 1718 01:10:45,910 --> 01:10:44,180 peanuts you know it's a it's not the 1719 01:10:48,700 --> 01:10:45,920 same ladies and gentlemen I want to say 1720 01:10:52,000 --> 01:10:48,710 this I like James Fox but he's not an 1721 01:10:54,180 --> 01:10:52,010 action hero sorry about that 1722 01:10:56,440 --> 01:10:54,190 what's really funny is and I have a 1723 01:10:57,760 --> 01:10:56,450 recollection and Chris does too of a 1724 01:11:00,520 --> 01:10:57,770 meeting with David Sirota 1725 01:11:02,470 --> 01:11:00,530 probably seven eight years ago where 1726 01:11:04,210 --> 01:11:02,480 David talked about a show called chasing 1727 01:11:06,370 --> 01:11:04,220 UFOs and the whole idea was he was gonna 1728 01:11:07,810 --> 01:11:06,380 fly around in a Learjet and with a 1729 01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:07,820 parachute just in case he had to abandon 1730 01:11:12,100 --> 01:11:10,010 the plane and look for UFOs in the sky 1731 01:11:14,440 --> 01:11:12,110 and probably I'm sure there was some 1732 01:11:16,120 --> 01:11:14,450 ground ground maneuvers involved in that 1733 01:11:17,830 --> 01:11:16,130 concept but it seems to me that his 1734 01:11:19,810 --> 01:11:17,840 treatments got chewed up and spit out by 1735 01:11:21,609 --> 01:11:19,820 the mainstream media machine 1736 01:11:23,470 --> 01:11:21,619 and they kind of ripped him off and put 1737 01:11:25,120 --> 01:11:23,480 it into this show I haven't talked to 1738 01:11:27,700 --> 01:11:25,130 David about a sense then but I'm sure 1739 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:27,710 that he's of that sentiment especially 1740 01:11:31,180 --> 01:11:29,570 since the name of the show was the same 1741 01:11:33,520 --> 01:11:31,190 look if you take all of the different 1742 01:11:36,010 --> 01:11:33,530 polls and rather it's a third two-thirds 1743 01:11:38,229 --> 01:11:36,020 whatever it actually is it's a 1744 01:11:40,149 --> 01:11:38,239 significant amount of population for the 1745 01:11:42,790 --> 01:11:40,159 media to continue to ridicule it based 1746 01:11:45,339 --> 01:11:42,800 on an old paradigm all it's showing is 1747 01:11:48,010 --> 01:11:45,349 that they are acting on orders that are 1748 01:11:49,780 --> 01:11:48,020 obsolete to this point and even there is 1749 01:11:51,220 --> 01:11:49,790 they're insulting the intelligence of 1750 01:11:52,870 --> 01:11:51,230 the average American that's really 1751 01:11:54,879 --> 01:11:52,880 paying attention if you go to the people 1752 01:11:57,370 --> 01:11:54,889 that have spent five minutes watching 1753 01:12:00,399 --> 01:11:57,380 ancient aliens or learning some of the 1754 01:12:02,020 --> 01:12:00,409 things that digesting some of the 1755 01:12:03,490 --> 01:12:02,030 evidence the percentage of people that 1756 01:12:06,370 --> 01:12:03,500 believe that we're not being lied to 1757 01:12:08,080 --> 01:12:06,380 goes up exponentially so when you start 1758 01:12:10,300 --> 01:12:08,090 talking about an educated public and 1759 01:12:13,180 --> 01:12:10,310 then you start you continue the ridicule 1760 01:12:15,129 --> 01:12:13,190 factor it's it's a clash of cultures 1761 01:12:17,439 --> 01:12:15,139 that's occurring here and so this media 1762 01:12:19,390 --> 01:12:17,449 that continues to make a joke out of the 1763 01:12:20,740 --> 01:12:19,400 subject people are just shaking their 1764 01:12:23,859 --> 01:12:20,750 heads and they're exposing themselves 1765 01:12:25,780 --> 01:12:23,869 more and more of puppets of deception of 1766 01:12:28,629 --> 01:12:25,790 course when you look at how things are 1767 01:12:31,089 --> 01:12:28,639 with our government now we believe them 1768 01:12:34,209 --> 01:12:31,099 less and less now we hear about the NSA 1769 01:12:35,979 --> 01:12:34,219 and about what they admit is going on 1770 01:12:37,149 --> 01:12:35,989 and we assume if that's what they're 1771 01:12:39,819 --> 01:12:37,159 going to admit what are they really 1772 01:12:42,040 --> 01:12:39,829 doing you know the approval rate of 1773 01:12:43,569 --> 01:12:42,050 Congress is what in the single digits 1774 01:12:46,419 --> 01:12:43,579 nobody believes what they're doing a 1775 01:12:48,790 --> 01:12:46,429 bunch of nasty old men who have no clue 1776 01:12:50,950 --> 01:12:48,800 of what's going on in the world we talk 1777 01:12:53,709 --> 01:12:50,960 about the media and where people get 1778 01:12:55,660 --> 01:12:53,719 through news so we find for example the 1779 01:12:57,819 --> 01:12:55,670 Comedy Central the news at Comedy 1780 01:13:01,060 --> 01:12:57,829 Central it's considered more credible 1781 01:13:02,979 --> 01:13:01,070 than not just Fox News but any TV 1782 01:13:03,550 --> 01:13:02,989 network no one believes what anybody 1783 01:13:05,890 --> 01:13:03,560 says 1784 01:13:08,830 --> 01:13:05,900 I once theorized that if President Obama 1785 01:13:10,300 --> 01:13:08,840 tomorrow said we're being visited by et 1786 01:13:12,399 --> 01:13:10,310 it's all true we wouldn't believe him 1787 01:13:13,780 --> 01:13:12,409 well you know that plays right into the 1788 01:13:15,490 --> 01:13:13,790 false flags because then the very next 1789 01:13:17,140 --> 01:13:15,500 day Alex Jones would be on the air 1790 01:13:19,209 --> 01:13:17,150 saying it's not true it's the UN 1791 01:13:21,220 --> 01:13:19,219 disguised as aliens landing on American 1792 01:13:24,550 --> 01:13:21,230 soil to put us all in trains you're 1793 01:13:27,609 --> 01:13:24,560 right and they're so confused the stuff 1794 01:13:29,620 --> 01:13:27,619 were being fed that the truth is is 1795 01:13:32,260 --> 01:13:29,630 buried in there somewhere so people kind 1796 01:13:33,819 --> 01:13:32,270 of have to be discerning and the more 1797 01:13:35,350 --> 01:13:33,829 people search the more they're able to 1798 01:13:37,899 --> 01:13:35,360 discern for themselves what feels right 1799 01:13:39,729 --> 01:13:37,909 and what doesn't and the more people 1800 01:13:41,859 --> 01:13:39,739 that actually look into this topic the 1801 01:13:42,939 --> 01:13:41,869 more people understand we all know you 1802 01:13:45,100 --> 01:13:42,949 know that we're being lied to and 1803 01:13:46,479 --> 01:13:45,110 deceived on almost every level and by 1804 01:13:48,129 --> 01:13:46,489 anybody in power rather it's a 1805 01:13:49,990 --> 01:13:48,139 corporation or a government agency or 1806 01:13:52,839 --> 01:13:50,000 the whole bureaucracy that makes it 1807 01:13:54,729 --> 01:13:52,849 happen but at the end of the day the 1808 01:13:57,100 --> 01:13:54,739 media can continue this facade of 1809 01:13:59,530 --> 01:13:57,110 ridicule but it's just it's falling on 1810 01:14:01,959 --> 01:13:59,540 deaf ears I think at the end of my 1811 01:14:03,939 --> 01:14:01,969 disclosure dialogues movie showed 1812 01:14:07,720 --> 01:14:03,949 President Obama at a mock disclosure 1813 01:14:09,580 --> 01:14:07,730 underneath president reveals et presence 1814 01:14:11,379 --> 01:14:09,590 and showed you videos of flying saucers 1815 01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:11,389 and I ended the film I said disclosure 1816 01:14:15,209 --> 01:14:13,489 it's already happened the rest is 1817 01:14:17,799 --> 01:14:15,219 details and if you're paying attention 1818 01:14:19,540 --> 01:14:17,809 disclosure has already happened the 1819 01:14:22,149 --> 01:14:19,550 collective Society has not yet 1820 01:14:24,580 --> 01:14:22,159 completely caught up but I think that 1821 01:14:28,149 --> 01:14:24,590 the presence of et is being revealed to 1822 01:14:31,089 --> 01:14:28,159 humanity by ETS is two generations away 1823 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:31,099 at best if we survive that long these 1824 01:14:35,530 --> 01:14:32,690 races are not going to come down and 1825 01:14:37,240 --> 01:14:35,540 welcome the barbarians of Earth into the 1826 01:14:39,609 --> 01:14:37,250 Galactic Brotherhood until we prove that 1827 01:14:41,229 --> 01:14:39,619 we can survive ourselves and it's not 1828 01:14:43,450 --> 01:14:41,239 because there's a pocket of people in La 1829 01:14:45,370 --> 01:14:43,460 Sedona wherever to consider themselves 1830 01:14:47,560 --> 01:14:45,380 enlightened and the planet is waking up 1831 01:14:49,270 --> 01:14:47,570 it's when the rapists in Somalia and the 1832 01:14:51,339 --> 01:14:49,280 and the people that are chopping off 1833 01:14:53,319 --> 01:14:51,349 heads in Saudi Arabia when those people 1834 01:14:55,359 --> 01:14:53,329 elevate themselves to a level of 1835 01:14:58,510 --> 01:14:55,369 understanding the interconnectivity of 1836 01:15:00,310 --> 01:14:58,520 the human species then we can talk about 1837 01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:00,320 a planet that has evolved to the point 1838 01:15:05,260 --> 01:15:02,570 where we're worthy of being led off of 1839 01:15:08,379 --> 01:15:05,270 our let out of our cage so that assumes 1840 01:15:09,879 --> 01:15:08,389 also that et is friendly that is et 1841 01:15:11,979 --> 01:15:09,889 there's a lot of questions you can ask 1842 01:15:13,330 --> 01:15:11,989 there and the number of those questions 1843 01:15:15,729 --> 01:15:13,340 are things we've talked about the power 1844 01:15:18,939 --> 01:15:15,739 cast over the years and things I've seen 1845 01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:18,949 myself in studying UFOs which is things 1846 01:15:23,740 --> 01:15:21,050 are not what they seem to be there 1847 01:15:25,810 --> 01:15:23,750 either and that et maybe the simplest 1848 01:15:28,209 --> 01:15:25,820 answer but when you talk about the media 1849 01:15:30,790 --> 01:15:28,219 presenting anything we also have to 1850 01:15:33,729 --> 01:15:30,800 remember it's not a liberal media it's 1851 01:15:36,729 --> 01:15:33,739 not conservative media it is a corporate 1852 01:15:38,060 --> 01:15:36,739 media we have corporations who exist to 1853 01:15:41,540 --> 01:15:38,070 make a profit then 1854 01:15:44,570 --> 01:15:41,550 existing to inform the people now one 1855 01:15:46,190 --> 01:15:44,580 time in the far distant past for example 1856 01:15:48,830 --> 01:15:46,200 with network television local TV 1857 01:15:52,100 --> 01:15:48,840 stations it wasn't about the profits it 1858 01:15:54,340 --> 01:15:52,110 was about fulfilling your obligation to 1859 01:15:56,150 --> 01:15:54,350 get your license from the FCC that 1860 01:15:59,330 --> 01:15:56,160 obligation was to act in the public 1861 01:16:01,130 --> 01:15:59,340 interest so the news department it was 1862 01:16:03,140 --> 01:16:01,140 hands off you didn't touch them 1863 01:16:05,990 --> 01:16:03,150 you didn't tell what to do one day they 1864 01:16:07,700 --> 01:16:06,000 woke up and decided you know guys we can 1865 01:16:08,720 --> 01:16:07,710 make money from this you know this could 1866 01:16:11,600 --> 01:16:08,730 be a real moneymaker 1867 01:16:13,970 --> 01:16:11,610 so they had happy talked news or they 1868 01:16:17,510 --> 01:16:13,980 have conservative news or liberal news 1869 01:16:19,970 --> 01:16:17,520 they simply take the basic information 1870 01:16:22,430 --> 01:16:19,980 they distill it they homogenized it they 1871 01:16:25,070 --> 01:16:22,440 change it and they present it in a way 1872 01:16:27,950 --> 01:16:25,080 to get the most viewers the most 1873 01:16:29,930 --> 01:16:27,960 advertisers the most profit end of my 1874 01:16:31,910 --> 01:16:29,940 soapbox until the next segment we have 1875 01:16:40,100 --> 01:16:31,920 Ron James joining us with Jean and Chris 1876 01:16:43,070 --> 01:16:40,110 you're in the para cast are you tired of 1877 01:16:46,100 --> 01:16:43,080 searching for a great talk radio more 1878 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:46,110 important search in Overland we are the 1879 01:16:51,050 --> 01:16:48,810 gcn radio 1880 01:16:53,390 --> 01:16:51,060 graphic converter is the image 1881 01:16:56,300 --> 01:16:53,400 manipulation tool for the rest of us it 1882 01:16:58,459 --> 01:16:56,310 does not use any database you get full 1883 01:17:00,890 --> 01:16:58,469 control of all your files want to view 1884 01:17:03,410 --> 01:17:00,900 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the raw 1981 01:21:04,880 --> 01:20:58,350 [Music] 1982 01:21:07,670 --> 01:21:04,890 isn't that funny when I first started 1983 01:21:09,320 --> 01:21:07,680 working radio stations as many years ago 1984 01:21:12,080 --> 01:21:09,330 as news director in suburban 1985 01:21:14,750 --> 01:21:12,090 Philadelphia he gave me the bleeds it 1986 01:21:17,180 --> 01:21:14,760 leads line like the first day before you 1987 01:21:17,570 --> 01:21:17,190 start working here this is the way we do 1988 01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:17,580 things 1989 01:21:22,250 --> 01:21:20,130 any when's that spiel I said alright 1990 01:21:23,270 --> 01:21:22,260 fine you know I needed the job so I did 1991 01:21:25,790 --> 01:21:23,280 what he told me I didn't lie about 1992 01:21:28,340 --> 01:21:25,800 anything you know I didn't alter 1993 01:21:30,950 --> 01:21:28,350 anything I didn't withhold anything but 1994 01:21:32,750 --> 01:21:30,960 we had to do what we had to do with gene 1995 01:21:35,690 --> 01:21:32,760 and Chris and Ron James we're talking 1996 01:21:37,790 --> 01:21:35,700 about now segwang from the Citizen 1997 01:21:40,340 --> 01:21:37,800 hearing on disclosure we'll get back to 1998 01:21:43,340 --> 01:21:40,350 that in the impact but about the way the 1999 01:21:46,070 --> 01:21:43,350 media treats anything and not just UFOs 2000 01:21:48,980 --> 01:21:46,080 not just ghost sightings but anything 2001 01:21:51,050 --> 01:21:48,990 Ron you had a comment yeah you know I 2002 01:21:52,700 --> 01:21:51,060 was if it bleeds it leads is just 2003 01:21:56,060 --> 01:21:52,710 another example of what I was talking 2004 01:21:59,030 --> 01:21:56,070 about if if if society and the people 2005 01:22:01,220 --> 01:21:59,040 watching and listening were not drawn to 2006 01:22:03,020 --> 01:22:01,230 that then it would be if it loves it 2007 01:22:05,330 --> 01:22:03,030 rises above you know it would be like 2008 01:22:06,860 --> 01:22:05,340 hey the story about the the little girl 2009 01:22:08,810 --> 01:22:06,870 that got a kitten they helped her cure 2010 01:22:11,420 --> 01:22:08,820 her cancer would be the story that leads 2011 01:22:14,450 --> 01:22:11,430 today our society does not have an 2012 01:22:16,310 --> 01:22:14,460 appetite for that so we again cannot 2013 01:22:17,660 --> 01:22:16,320 blame the media we have to take a deeper 2014 01:22:20,180 --> 01:22:17,670 look and we have to take a look at 2015 01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:20,190 ourselves and what's happening in your 2016 01:22:23,570 --> 01:22:21,810 own homes and your own family and what 2017 01:22:26,090 --> 01:22:23,580 kind of media you are gravitating to 2018 01:22:28,310 --> 01:22:26,100 that's where you're gonna find how you 2019 01:22:30,860 --> 01:22:28,320 affect this change but you're right it's 2020 01:22:32,300 --> 01:22:30,870 a it's a reflection of what's happening 2021 01:22:34,970 --> 01:22:32,310 in the human condition it's not a 2022 01:22:36,650 --> 01:22:34,980 reflection of a few who are choosing to 2023 01:22:38,540 --> 01:22:36,660 feed us this stuff there's a certain 2024 01:22:40,220 --> 01:22:38,550 argument that says well we've been 2025 01:22:42,980 --> 01:22:40,230 force-fed it for so long it's what we're 2026 01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:42,990 used to eating but I just I just don't 2027 01:22:46,820 --> 01:22:45,090 buy that I see people in this in this 2028 01:22:49,730 --> 01:22:46,830 field trying to make change and I see 2029 01:22:52,760 --> 01:22:49,740 them failing miserably until people want 2030 01:22:55,250 --> 01:22:52,770 to be fed a more healthy diet they're 2031 01:22:58,100 --> 01:22:55,260 going to continue to get oh Jake chases 2032 01:22:59,110 --> 01:22:58,110 and Kim Kardashian and Snooki oh please 2033 01:23:04,880 --> 01:22:59,120 don't 2034 01:23:05,630 --> 01:23:04,890 yes y'all boo boo okay 2035 01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:05,640 this 2036 01:23:08,930 --> 01:23:07,770 Joe is now descending into areas that we 2037 01:23:11,990 --> 01:23:08,940 don't want to approach would you get the 2038 01:23:13,730 --> 01:23:12,000 picture now one of the criticisms made 2039 01:23:15,920 --> 01:23:13,740 of Citizen hearing on disclosure and one 2040 01:23:17,780 --> 01:23:15,930 of the things that Leslie came maintains 2041 01:23:21,260 --> 01:23:17,790 in her own treatment of the subject is 2042 01:23:23,810 --> 01:23:21,270 don't say we're being visited by et when 2043 01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:23,820 you go to a scientist or a soldier or a 2044 01:23:28,910 --> 01:23:26,970 government official what you say is look 2045 01:23:31,610 --> 01:23:28,920 at all the weird things that are 2046 01:23:33,830 --> 01:23:31,620 happening look at the evidence the 2047 01:23:35,450 --> 01:23:33,840 evidence points to something that this 2048 01:23:37,430 --> 01:23:35,460 solid intelligent lead controlled 2049 01:23:40,760 --> 01:23:37,440 tracked on radar photographed etcetera 2050 01:23:43,490 --> 01:23:40,770 give them the evidence shorn of the 2051 01:23:45,410 --> 01:23:43,500 conclusion and let them investigate and 2052 01:23:48,110 --> 01:23:45,420 reach their own conclusions whatever it 2053 01:23:49,790 --> 01:23:48,120 is but if you walk in and say ET is here 2054 01:23:51,740 --> 01:23:49,800 they'll look at you and say get out of 2055 01:23:53,750 --> 01:23:51,750 here that that's true and that's a good 2056 01:23:55,730 --> 01:23:53,760 point and that is one of the bedrocks of 2057 01:23:58,070 --> 01:23:55,740 the para caste we've we've been 2058 01:24:00,950 --> 01:23:58,080 championing this more conservative 2059 01:24:04,550 --> 01:24:00,960 approach and and this this approach that 2060 01:24:07,940 --> 01:24:04,560 is does not include any sort of 2061 01:24:09,860 --> 01:24:07,950 conclusion that isn't open-ended because 2062 01:24:12,050 --> 01:24:09,870 we don't know we don't know what we're 2063 01:24:14,630 --> 01:24:12,060 dealing with we have a certain amount of 2064 01:24:16,700 --> 01:24:14,640 information that we can refer to there's 2065 01:24:17,630 --> 01:24:16,710 evidence that suggests that we're 2066 01:24:20,660 --> 01:24:17,640 dealing with something highly 2067 01:24:23,060 --> 01:24:20,670 technological that's not it's non-human 2068 01:24:26,480 --> 01:24:23,070 but putting out for instance Steve 2069 01:24:28,580 --> 01:24:26,490 ambassador up a petition at We the 2070 01:24:30,710 --> 01:24:28,590 People the the website for the White 2071 01:24:33,380 --> 01:24:30,720 House and having the word 2072 01:24:35,530 --> 01:24:33,390 extraterrestrial in it is is you're 2073 01:24:38,480 --> 01:24:35,540 shooting yourself in the foot 2074 01:24:40,550 --> 01:24:38,490 languaging is very important and if you 2075 01:24:42,230 --> 01:24:40,560 language something to suggest that 2076 01:24:45,230 --> 01:24:42,240 you've already made up your mind and 2077 01:24:46,910 --> 01:24:45,240 you're trying in in a subtle but very 2078 01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:46,920 specific way to force-feed that 2079 01:24:51,170 --> 01:24:49,170 conclusion onto others without the 2080 01:24:54,590 --> 01:24:51,180 amount of slam-dunk evidence you need to 2081 01:24:56,510 --> 01:24:54,600 do that then then it does water down the 2082 01:24:59,810 --> 01:24:56,520 possibilities of being taken seriously 2083 01:25:01,700 --> 01:24:59,820 and I really hope that at some point 2084 01:25:03,170 --> 01:25:01,710 somebody can get through Ron somebody 2085 01:25:05,300 --> 01:25:03,180 can get through to Steve ambassador that 2086 01:25:08,450 --> 01:25:05,310 we should be a little more conservative 2087 01:25:11,990 --> 01:25:08,460 in how we language what we're trying to 2088 01:25:14,750 --> 01:25:12,000 say and by coming up with with the 2089 01:25:16,919 --> 01:25:14,760 knee-jerk conclusions your pigeon holing 2090 01:25:19,740 --> 01:25:16,929 yourself and you're cutting you your 2091 01:25:21,390 --> 01:25:19,750 nose off to spite your face in my 2092 01:25:23,189 --> 01:25:21,400 opinion there's another side to that I 2093 01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:23,199 mean we need you know we need our Alex 2094 01:25:27,209 --> 01:25:25,090 Joneses and we need our Stephen Bassets 2095 01:25:28,830 --> 01:25:27,219 we need the people that are pushing all 2096 01:25:30,660 --> 01:25:28,840 the different ends of the of the 2097 01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:30,670 spectrum in order to get anything done 2098 01:25:35,850 --> 01:25:33,010 without the the lunatic friends you 2099 01:25:37,350 --> 01:25:35,860 don't have the the same change and the 2100 01:25:39,270 --> 01:25:37,360 thing about Leslie is that you know she 2101 01:25:42,300 --> 01:25:39,280 was blood Hopkins girlfriend she knows 2102 01:25:43,890 --> 01:25:42,310 what's going on and she has purposely 2103 01:25:46,919 --> 01:25:43,900 put herself in a position where she will 2104 01:25:48,630 --> 01:25:46,929 not take that position in order to mix 2105 01:25:50,189 --> 01:25:48,640 into the mainstream in what she 2106 01:25:52,140 --> 01:25:50,199 considers to be a more effective manner 2107 01:25:54,450 --> 01:25:52,150 but at the end of the day is she getting 2108 01:25:56,220 --> 01:25:54,460 anything done you know you can go to a 2109 01:25:57,660 --> 01:25:56,230 scientist and you can say hey you know I 2110 01:25:58,890 --> 01:25:57,670 think it's ETS or you can go to a 2111 01:26:01,709 --> 01:25:58,900 scientist you go hey there's a bunch of 2112 01:26:04,410 --> 01:26:01,719 stuff either way is the scientist going 2113 01:26:07,110 --> 01:26:04,420 to investigate it or not and if you show 2114 01:26:10,470 --> 01:26:07,120 me a rate of success from her approach 2115 01:26:12,600 --> 01:26:10,480 and her philosophy then I would be a 2116 01:26:14,910 --> 01:26:12,610 little bit more willing to say yeah I 2117 01:26:16,729 --> 01:26:14,920 mean yeah she's gotten some ears of some 2118 01:26:19,200 --> 01:26:16,739 influential people but it's gone nowhere 2119 01:26:20,820 --> 01:26:19,210 citizen hearing it for all of its 2120 01:26:23,280 --> 01:26:20,830 brashness and all of its assumptions 2121 01:26:25,500 --> 01:26:23,290 made some noise it's some very important 2122 01:26:28,080 --> 01:26:25,510 people listen to and Leslie passed up a 2123 01:26:30,410 --> 01:26:28,090 fantastic opportunity to jump on and be 2124 01:26:32,580 --> 01:26:30,420 supportive of something instead she 2125 01:26:34,380 --> 01:26:32,590 defaulted rad she says she was misquoted 2126 01:26:36,689 --> 01:26:34,390 whatever and she could have done a lot 2127 01:26:38,220 --> 01:26:36,699 worse job on Stephen Bassett and what he 2128 01:26:40,860 --> 01:26:38,230 was trying to accomplish than she did 2129 01:26:42,689 --> 01:26:40,870 but at the end of the day she passed up 2130 01:26:44,790 --> 01:26:42,699 a fantastic opportunity to rally the 2131 01:26:46,169 --> 01:26:44,800 troops and rather people have different 2132 01:26:47,520 --> 01:26:46,179 up different you know you start 2133 01:26:49,290 --> 01:26:47,530 splitting hairs everybody's got a 2134 01:26:51,180 --> 01:26:49,300 different opinion but at the end of the 2135 01:26:52,320 --> 01:26:51,190 day you need the Stephen Bassets and you 2136 01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:52,330 need the Lesley's and you need the 2137 01:26:56,130 --> 01:26:53,770 Stephen Greer's and you need the people 2138 01:26:58,169 --> 01:26:56,140 that are even on the far complete other 2139 01:26:59,820 --> 01:26:58,179 side offering logical explanations you 2140 01:27:02,490 --> 01:26:59,830 need all of them to get to the answers 2141 01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:02,500 but we don't need outfit Webber before 2142 01:27:06,930 --> 01:27:04,330 we go on I think in all fairness to 2143 01:27:10,590 --> 01:27:06,940 Leslie her personal relationship with 2144 01:27:12,630 --> 01:27:10,600 what Hopkins is her private business I 2145 01:27:14,939 --> 01:27:12,640 don't think that should be a factor in 2146 01:27:17,910 --> 01:27:14,949 how she addresses her approach in the 2147 01:27:20,250 --> 01:27:17,920 UFO field we can argue that please 2148 01:27:22,020 --> 01:27:20,260 without arguing a personal relationship 2149 01:27:24,149 --> 01:27:22,030 because there could be lots of reasons 2150 01:27:26,370 --> 01:27:24,159 people have personal relationships and 2151 01:27:28,140 --> 01:27:26,380 doesn't mean she agreed with everything 2152 01:27:29,360 --> 01:27:28,150 he did or he agree with everything she 2153 01:27:30,830 --> 01:27:29,370 did that 2154 01:27:33,080 --> 01:27:30,840 their own private business let's just 2155 01:27:35,480 --> 01:27:33,090 move past that okay all right let's get 2156 01:27:38,300 --> 01:27:35,490 on now that we've made the big splash 2157 01:27:40,520 --> 01:27:38,310 with sis and hearing on disclosure do we 2158 01:27:43,340 --> 01:27:40,530 see a sequel is there going to be a 2159 01:27:43,730 --> 01:27:43,350 second Citizen hearing on disclosure or 2160 01:27:45,170 --> 01:27:43,740 what 2161 01:27:47,510 --> 01:27:45,180 well the Citizen hearing on disclosure 2162 01:27:49,190 --> 01:27:47,520 is pretty much done there's going to be 2163 01:27:50,660 --> 01:27:49,200 other citizen hearings but there's not 2164 01:27:52,190 --> 01:27:50,670 going to be another Citizen hearing on 2165 01:27:54,410 --> 01:27:52,200 disclosure it was a really good model 2166 01:27:56,390 --> 01:27:54,420 and as Ron brought up earlier I mean you 2167 01:27:59,320 --> 01:27:56,400 can use this model across the board on 2168 01:28:02,120 --> 01:27:59,330 any social issue that deserves attention 2169 01:28:03,440 --> 01:28:02,130 and deserves a jump start especially 2170 01:28:06,290 --> 01:28:03,450 those types of issues that are being 2171 01:28:09,050 --> 01:28:06,300 ignored by by the bureaucracies and the 2172 01:28:11,060 --> 01:28:09,060 corporations and the politicians but you 2173 01:28:13,670 --> 01:28:11,070 know I really think that it's it's 2174 01:28:16,820 --> 01:28:13,680 important to you know use the the 2175 01:28:20,840 --> 01:28:16,830 gravitas of that particular model and 2176 01:28:22,970 --> 01:28:20,850 you can affect some change in at least 2177 01:28:25,070 --> 01:28:22,980 getting people to look at it who 2178 01:28:27,020 --> 01:28:25,080 normally wouldn't look at it what you're 2179 01:28:28,940 --> 01:28:27,030 doing is you're creating you're creating 2180 01:28:31,400 --> 01:28:28,950 a scenario that that's familiar and 2181 01:28:34,130 --> 01:28:31,410 comfortable for people especially 2182 01:28:37,580 --> 01:28:34,140 politicians and and they need that 2183 01:28:40,040 --> 01:28:37,590 comfort level politicians Danny Sheehan 2184 01:28:41,870 --> 01:28:40,050 who I respect quite a bit brought up a 2185 01:28:44,330 --> 01:28:41,880 very good point and he says the 2186 01:28:46,130 --> 01:28:44,340 politicians don't lead what they do is 2187 01:28:47,870 --> 01:28:46,140 they they lick their fingers stick it up 2188 01:28:49,910 --> 01:28:47,880 in the air and they go which way the 2189 01:28:52,570 --> 01:28:49,920 winds blowing so if you create enough of 2190 01:28:55,520 --> 01:28:52,580 a groundswell of a grassroots 2191 01:28:56,810 --> 01:28:55,530 groundswell you're going to the 2192 01:28:59,450 --> 01:28:56,820 politicians are going to want to jump 2193 01:29:01,460 --> 01:28:59,460 ahead of that and in and lead the charge 2194 01:29:05,300 --> 01:29:01,470 if they if they feel safe enough and if 2195 01:29:07,240 --> 01:29:05,310 they feel that it's a subject that's not 2196 01:29:11,960 --> 01:29:07,250 going to taint them that's not going to 2197 01:29:15,740 --> 01:29:11,970 to you know make them into fodder for 2198 01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:15,750 their next election opponents you know 2199 01:29:22,190 --> 01:29:18,930 TV ads so you know again I think it is a 2200 01:29:25,700 --> 01:29:22,200 good model but I really do have a 2201 01:29:28,460 --> 01:29:25,710 problem with 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--> 01:34:38,330 so go to be young again dot-com for a 2324 01:34:42,670 --> 01:34:41,030 free copy of my jaw dropping lecture it 2325 01:34:45,370 --> 01:34:42,680 may shock you but it could save your 2326 01:34:47,899 --> 01:34:45,380 life so go to be young again dot-com 2327 01:34:54,049 --> 01:34:47,909 again that's to be young again 2328 01:34:58,729 --> 01:34:54,059 come either to make Pope your thing to 2329 01:35:00,649 --> 01:34:58,739 the Paragon producer Ron James Chris 2330 01:35:03,159 --> 01:35:00,659 O'Brien and gene Steinberg on this 2331 01:35:05,989 --> 01:35:03,169 week's episode and we're talking about 2332 01:35:08,029 --> 01:35:05,999 the medium and the message and how to 2333 01:35:10,520 --> 01:35:08,039 get the word out there and how to get 2334 01:35:13,549 --> 01:35:10,530 people interested in the subject now if 2335 01:35:15,620 --> 01:35:13,559 it's going to be grassroots if you got 2336 01:35:17,449 --> 01:35:15,630 to get the people involved that's why 2337 01:35:18,859 --> 01:35:17,459 the internet gene is really important 2338 01:35:21,649 --> 01:35:18,869 and ron has come up with a very 2339 01:35:25,810 --> 01:35:21,659 interesting approach called evolve TV 2340 01:35:29,209 --> 01:35:25,820 which i think is is at the vanguard of 2341 01:35:31,069 --> 01:35:29,219 utilizing the wonderful opportunities 2342 01:35:33,949 --> 01:35:31,079 that exist for grassroots you know 2343 01:35:36,199 --> 01:35:33,959 organizing and and creating momentum in 2344 01:35:37,819 --> 01:35:36,209 the culture and and that's the internet 2345 01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:37,829 it's it's one of the last things that we 2346 01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:41,130 really have that that is exemplifies 2347 01:35:45,949 --> 01:35:43,530 that that Democratic you know sort of 2348 01:35:49,729 --> 01:35:45,959 idea of free speech and of being able to 2349 01:35:51,859 --> 01:35:49,739 to get out a message to a vast amount of 2350 01:35:53,239 --> 01:35:51,869 people worldwide and and I think I 2351 01:35:55,339 --> 01:35:53,249 evolved TV is a step in the right 2352 01:35:58,520 --> 01:35:55,349 direction and I think we should have Ron 2353 01:36:01,459 --> 01:35:58,530 give us kind of an overview of what I've 2354 01:36:02,989 --> 01:36:01,469 all TV is and where he came up with the 2355 01:36:05,540 --> 01:36:02,999 idea and where he plans to take it 2356 01:36:07,580 --> 01:36:05,550 yeah thanks Chris back when I first 2357 01:36:10,909 --> 01:36:07,590 started making the kind of conscious 2358 01:36:12,679 --> 01:36:10,919 media productions that I've done I built 2359 01:36:14,419 --> 01:36:12,689 the formula that basically involves 2360 01:36:16,850 --> 01:36:14,429 setting up these little studios and 2361 01:36:18,739 --> 01:36:16,860 shooting these inexpensive pieces and 2362 01:36:20,810 --> 01:36:18,749 and then marketing them on DVD to 2363 01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:20,820 independently owned stores and bypassing 2364 01:36:25,459 --> 01:36:22,650 the entire media distribution machine 2365 01:36:27,649 --> 01:36:25,469 and and did fairly well with it but I 2366 01:36:29,359 --> 01:36:27,659 was always wishing that the technology 2367 01:36:30,979 --> 01:36:29,369 on the web would get to the point where 2368 01:36:33,319 --> 01:36:30,989 there would be a much more streamlined 2369 01:36:35,870 --> 01:36:33,329 way of doing it and in the last year I 2370 01:36:38,089 --> 01:36:35,880 was able to put together all of the 2371 01:36:40,909 --> 01:36:38,099 different elements necessary to do this 2372 01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:40,919 and and I created what I call the future 2373 01:36:45,529 --> 01:36:43,050 of the television network and while it's 2374 01:36:48,020 --> 01:36:45,539 still in its infancy the model itself I 2375 01:36:50,509 --> 01:36:48,030 believe is going to be the trend as more 2376 01:36:53,000 --> 01:36:50,519 and more people are gravitated towards 2377 01:36:55,159 --> 01:36:53,010 media that is delivered directly to them 2378 01:36:57,739 --> 01:36:55,169 instead of through gatekeepers and at 2379 01:37:00,600 --> 01:36:57,749 the behest of advertisers so I created a 2380 01:37:03,450 --> 01:37:00,610 website called evolve tv.com 2381 01:37:06,209 --> 01:37:03,460 what it is is it's got pay-per-view 2382 01:37:08,700 --> 01:37:06,219 movies original programming that you can 2383 01:37:10,200 --> 01:37:08,710 subscribe to it's all done on a basis 2384 01:37:12,330 --> 01:37:10,210 that is designed to make sure that the 2385 01:37:14,430 --> 01:37:12,340 filmmaker gets paid it flies in the face 2386 01:37:16,320 --> 01:37:14,440 of the YouTube ripoffs and it flies in 2387 01:37:17,910 --> 01:37:16,330 the face of the people that today think 2388 01:37:19,830 --> 01:37:17,920 that just because somebody makes a film 2389 01:37:22,379 --> 01:37:19,840 they should give it away for free 2390 01:37:24,450 --> 01:37:22,389 you know I say to people we actually 2391 01:37:26,220 --> 01:37:24,460 when we did the Citizen hearing we 2392 01:37:28,530 --> 01:37:26,230 actually had people complaining that we 2393 01:37:30,780 --> 01:37:28,540 were charging $3 and 83 cents to watch 2394 01:37:33,180 --> 01:37:30,790 it and one guy actually sent us an email 2395 01:37:34,859 --> 01:37:33,190 wanting his three dollars and 83 cents 2396 01:37:37,229 --> 01:37:34,869 back because he didn't feel that he 2397 01:37:39,510 --> 01:37:37,239 should have to pay for the Citizen 2398 01:37:41,220 --> 01:37:39,520 hearing video because he was downloading 2399 01:37:42,390 --> 01:37:41,230 it and putting it on YouTube and he 2400 01:37:44,270 --> 01:37:42,400 thought that he was doing the world a 2401 01:37:47,220 --> 01:37:44,280 favor and should get his four bucks back 2402 01:37:49,290 --> 01:37:47,230 it just blew me away and in the future 2403 01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:49,300 of media believe me people if you want 2404 01:37:52,680 --> 01:37:50,770 good media you got to pay the people 2405 01:37:54,270 --> 01:37:52,690 that are producing it and so we've 2406 01:37:56,310 --> 01:37:54,280 created eivol TV as an online 2407 01:37:58,830 --> 01:37:56,320 pay-per-view platform and we're 2408 01:38:00,479 --> 01:37:58,840 democratizing it by making everybody 2409 01:38:02,280 --> 01:38:00,489 who's involved like if you have a 2410 01:38:03,930 --> 01:38:02,290 website you can pick videos that are on 2411 01:38:05,820 --> 01:38:03,940 evolve TV you can sell them through your 2412 01:38:07,350 --> 01:38:05,830 website and people could watch them 2413 01:38:08,910 --> 01:38:07,360 right there on the spot they don't have 2414 01:38:11,520 --> 01:38:08,920 to have a subscription although we offer 2415 01:38:13,260 --> 01:38:11,530 it and we do events like the Citizen 2416 01:38:15,930 --> 01:38:13,270 hearing we stream the Citizen hearing to 2417 01:38:17,879 --> 01:38:15,940 a little under 10,000 people in two 2418 01:38:20,100 --> 01:38:17,889 languages live right out of Washington 2419 01:38:21,899 --> 01:38:20,110 and certainly you have the problems that 2420 01:38:24,479 --> 01:38:21,909 you have with web streaming but we had 2421 01:38:26,129 --> 01:38:24,489 an overall fantastic success and so 2422 01:38:27,959 --> 01:38:26,139 we're doing live events of this nature 2423 01:38:29,820 --> 01:38:27,969 we're carrying we're working with 2424 01:38:32,459 --> 01:38:29,830 independent filmmakers we've got serious 2425 01:38:34,050 --> 01:38:32,469 on there from our favorite person that 2426 01:38:36,540 --> 01:38:34,060 we were just talking about we've got a 2427 01:38:39,510 --> 01:38:36,550 whole slew of UFO movies you go pop on a 2428 01:38:42,209 --> 01:38:39,520 watch for $9.99 for the whole playlist 2429 01:38:44,520 --> 01:38:42,219 and we're opening it up to other 2430 01:38:46,439 --> 01:38:44,530 filmmakers bring their films in we pay 2431 01:38:48,450 --> 01:38:46,449 the largest percentage of royalties in 2432 01:38:51,859 --> 01:38:48,460 the industry to filmmakers for for 2433 01:38:54,330 --> 01:38:51,869 letting us be the facilitator of their 2434 01:38:56,550 --> 01:38:54,340 pay-per-view streaming we offer the 2435 01:38:58,290 --> 01:38:56,560 platform to people anybody now can be in 2436 01:38:59,939 --> 01:38:58,300 the pay-per-view video business we can 2437 01:39:01,590 --> 01:38:59,949 give them everything they need to paste 2438 01:39:04,770 --> 01:39:01,600 and click and there they go 2439 01:39:06,120 --> 01:39:04,780 and so we're developing original shows 2440 01:39:08,580 --> 01:39:06,130 now that are going to be 2441 01:39:10,229 --> 01:39:08,590 subscription-based we've brought in some 2442 01:39:12,839 --> 01:39:10,239 people like Rob Simone is going to be 2443 01:39:14,340 --> 01:39:12,849 working with us on a show and some 2444 01:39:16,440 --> 01:39:14,350 others that are just create 2445 01:39:18,780 --> 01:39:16,450 fantastic shows about topics that we 2446 01:39:21,090 --> 01:39:18,790 believe people want to know the next 2447 01:39:24,030 --> 01:39:21,100 advances in paranormal phenomenon the 2448 01:39:26,310 --> 01:39:24,040 UFO field in a good journalistically 2449 01:39:28,950 --> 01:39:26,320 approached manner what's happening with 2450 01:39:30,510 --> 01:39:28,960 alternative agriculture how we can make 2451 01:39:32,670 --> 01:39:30,520 the world a better place by getting rid 2452 01:39:34,650 --> 01:39:32,680 of the GMOs and these companies that are 2453 01:39:37,020 --> 01:39:34,660 trying to pollute the planet very 2454 01:39:40,110 --> 01:39:37,030 conscious topics all available in a cool 2455 01:39:41,250 --> 01:39:40,120 platform so it's AI evolve tv.com it's 2456 01:39:42,990 --> 01:39:41,260 like I said it's still in its infancy 2457 01:39:45,390 --> 01:39:43,000 but go check it out and see what we have 2458 01:39:48,600 --> 01:39:45,400 to offer and we really do believe that 2459 01:39:51,020 --> 01:39:48,610 this is where media and media delivery 2460 01:39:54,150 --> 01:39:51,030 is going you can't have a YouTube model 2461 01:39:56,220 --> 01:39:54,160 for long where people produce media and 2462 01:39:58,950 --> 01:39:56,230 they get paid pennies for putting it on 2463 01:40:01,170 --> 01:39:58,960 because cameras cost money houses cost 2464 01:40:03,060 --> 01:40:01,180 money food costs money and so what's 2465 01:40:04,980 --> 01:40:03,070 happening is unless you want to see the 2466 01:40:07,710 --> 01:40:04,990 whole world more addicted to video tape 2467 01:40:10,110 --> 01:40:07,720 of somebody's cat dancing we've got to 2468 01:40:12,660 --> 01:40:10,120 come up with a way that monetizes media 2469 01:40:14,610 --> 01:40:12,670 to pay filmmakers and a way that enables 2470 01:40:16,140 --> 01:40:14,620 filmmakers to make a living and keep 2471 01:40:17,820 --> 01:40:16,150 producing the kind of stuff they want to 2472 01:40:20,310 --> 01:40:17,830 produce and so that's what we're doing 2473 01:40:22,830 --> 01:40:20,320 with evolve TV we're moving away from 2474 01:40:24,840 --> 01:40:22,840 the trend of marginalizing content 2475 01:40:26,640 --> 01:40:24,850 creators moving them back into the 2476 01:40:29,490 --> 01:40:26,650 spotlight and giving them a platform 2477 01:40:31,020 --> 01:40:29,500 where they could have success instead of 2478 01:40:33,090 --> 01:40:31,030 just being raked over the coals by 2479 01:40:34,560 --> 01:40:33,100 unscrupulous distributors let me ask you 2480 01:40:36,060 --> 01:40:34,570 a question here is there a possibility 2481 01:40:39,500 --> 01:40:36,070 or something that would be considered 2482 01:40:42,660 --> 01:40:39,510 with regard to putting I valve TV on 2483 01:40:45,210 --> 01:40:42,670 some of these set-top boxes like a Roku 2484 01:40:46,890 --> 01:40:45,220 or an Apple TV as and that's the next 2485 01:40:50,130 --> 01:40:46,900 step we're at we're developing apps now 2486 01:40:52,110 --> 01:40:50,140 pretty soon you're gonna be able to pop 2487 01:40:54,180 --> 01:40:52,120 open your Samsung VCR and they'll be an 2488 01:40:56,370 --> 01:40:54,190 evolved TV app and you just download it 2489 01:40:59,040 --> 01:40:56,380 and you can watch whatever you want in 2490 01:41:00,450 --> 01:40:59,050 terms of what Apple has because Apple is 2491 01:41:03,690 --> 01:41:00,460 starting to add more and more channels 2492 01:41:05,090 --> 01:41:03,700 to their Apple TV yep yeah I mean like 2493 01:41:08,250 --> 01:41:05,100 this would be interesting right now they 2494 01:41:11,970 --> 01:41:08,260 still adding mainstream stuff like watch 2495 01:41:14,730 --> 01:41:11,980 ESPN and HBO go or something like that 2496 01:41:17,600 --> 01:41:14,740 well if you weren't so video averse we'd 2497 01:41:20,990 --> 01:41:17,610 we could have a pair of cast 2498 01:41:23,840 --> 01:41:21,000 you know full you know full visual and 2499 01:41:25,790 --> 01:41:23,850 audio along with guests and I mean the 2500 01:41:29,120 --> 01:41:25,800 technology is just leaping forward I 2501 01:41:32,959 --> 01:41:29,130 think it's up to the real creative minds 2502 01:41:35,899 --> 01:41:32,969 out there to mold the platforms in such 2503 01:41:38,149 --> 01:41:35,909 a way that it serves everyone Ron brings 2504 01:41:39,919 --> 01:41:38,159 up a very good point you know you have 2505 01:41:43,790 --> 01:41:39,929 your people out there like the twins who 2506 01:41:47,410 --> 01:41:43,800 shall not be named you know mixing in 2507 01:41:50,209 --> 01:41:47,420 possibly just wonderful evidentiary 2508 01:41:53,030 --> 01:41:50,219 videos along with some of the most hokey 2509 01:41:55,370 --> 01:41:53,040 hoaxes the videos possibly you could 2510 01:41:58,879 --> 01:41:55,380 possibly ever imagine my favorite is the 2511 01:42:00,080 --> 01:41:58,889 alien being dragged behind the car I 2512 01:42:04,459 --> 01:42:00,090 don't know how many million hits that 2513 01:42:05,479 --> 01:42:04,469 got you know it's it's it's up to us and 2514 01:42:07,939 --> 01:42:05,489 when I'm brought up a very good point 2515 01:42:09,709 --> 01:42:07,949 the market tends to follow where the 2516 01:42:12,169 --> 01:42:09,719 interest is and if and if people are 2517 01:42:14,750 --> 01:42:12,179 slowly brought into a place of being 2518 01:42:17,209 --> 01:42:14,760 educated these types of ideas I think 2519 01:42:20,060 --> 01:42:17,219 will flourish and it's got to be a 2520 01:42:22,520 --> 01:42:20,070 win-win for everybody concerned you know 2521 01:42:24,830 --> 01:42:22,530 if you're some pimply fifteen-year-old 2522 01:42:28,430 --> 01:42:24,840 kid in your mom's basement spending two 2523 01:42:30,500 --> 01:42:28,440 months doing a 2-minute Hope's CG UFO 2524 01:42:32,270 --> 01:42:30,510 video you know there should be there 2525 01:42:35,330 --> 01:42:32,280 should be a channel for that but people 2526 01:42:36,530 --> 01:42:35,340 should should be educated to know that 2527 01:42:39,560 --> 01:42:36,540 that's what they're looking at a lot of 2528 01:42:42,169 --> 01:42:39,570 people don't have the the educational in 2529 01:42:44,270 --> 01:42:42,179 research you know background and they 2530 01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:44,280 haven't done the work and and there's a 2531 01:42:47,899 --> 01:42:46,650 lot of people that you know PT Barnum 2532 01:42:50,120 --> 01:42:47,909 was talking about there's a sucker born 2533 01:42:53,000 --> 01:42:50,130 every minute and we we have to take the 2534 01:42:55,010 --> 01:42:53,010 suckers and give them their own sort of 2535 01:42:57,020 --> 01:42:55,020 you know suck on this channel and then 2536 01:42:58,939 --> 01:42:57,030 and then for everyone else who are true 2537 01:43:02,270 --> 01:42:58,949 seekers and really do their own research 2538 01:43:04,010 --> 01:43:02,280 and and are interested in in educating 2539 01:43:05,689 --> 01:43:04,020 themselves in a proper manner these 2540 01:43:07,580 --> 01:43:05,699 people need to need a place to go as 2541 01:43:09,290 --> 01:43:07,590 well there's a lot of people out there 2542 01:43:13,129 --> 01:43:09,300 that are not happy with how the system 2543 01:43:15,560 --> 01:43:13,139 is mis serving us and and they want 2544 01:43:18,350 --> 01:43:15,570 alternatives they want to know where to 2545 01:43:20,390 --> 01:43:18,360 go to get non-gmo foods or where to go 2546 01:43:23,930 --> 01:43:20,400 to get quality alternative health 2547 01:43:25,760 --> 01:43:23,940 solutions and in options and and where 2548 01:43:28,640 --> 01:43:25,770 to go to find out the proper way to 2549 01:43:30,340 --> 01:43:28,650 investigate paranormal subjects unlike a 2550 01:43:32,380 --> 01:43:30,350 lot of the reality shows out there 2551 01:43:34,330 --> 01:43:32,390 to fabricate the the evidence and that 2552 01:43:35,860 --> 01:43:34,340 sort of thing so you know I think that 2553 01:43:37,900 --> 01:43:35,870 this is a real major step in the right 2554 01:43:39,820 --> 01:43:37,910 direction and I'm really glad that Ron 2555 01:43:41,830 --> 01:43:39,830 has put a lot of thought and a lot of 2556 01:43:44,440 --> 01:43:41,840 energy a lot of resources into getting 2557 01:43:46,450 --> 01:43:44,450 this thing off the ground and it would 2558 01:43:49,840 --> 01:43:46,460 be great to to somehow partner up with 2559 01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:49,850 with him with the para cast and maybe 2560 01:43:53,380 --> 01:43:51,290 for instance come up with a show that 2561 01:43:55,780 --> 01:43:53,390 educates people how to how to properly 2562 01:43:57,910 --> 01:43:55,790 investigate the paranormal phenomena 2563 01:44:00,670 --> 01:43:57,920 well as far as being video averse is 2564 01:44:03,550 --> 01:44:00,680 concerned but I don't mind as far as 2565 01:44:05,320 --> 01:44:03,560 being video averse is concerned I don't 2566 01:44:07,930 --> 01:44:05,330 want my face on camera but I don't mind 2567 01:44:10,390 --> 01:44:07,940 having my voice in the background yeah 2568 01:44:13,090 --> 01:44:10,400 why am I having the camera on you or on 2569 01:44:16,360 --> 01:44:13,100 the guests will just silhouette Eugene 2570 01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:16,370 well I could also wear a mask or I could 2571 01:44:19,570 --> 01:44:17,930 be like the unknown comic remember the 2572 01:44:24,010 --> 01:44:19,580 unknown comic a guy named Murray 2573 01:44:26,770 --> 01:44:24,020 Langston oh yeah he told the worst jokes 2574 01:44:31,120 --> 01:44:26,780 in the world but he carved out a career 2575 01:44:33,850 --> 01:44:31,130 well yeah Wade also you could also be we 2576 01:44:38,470 --> 01:44:33,860 could call you triumphant the comedy 2577 01:44:42,220 --> 01:44:38,480 insult dog I have a dog here I could use 2578 01:44:44,440 --> 01:44:42,230 his face you know gene a place to start 2579 01:44:46,150 --> 01:44:44,450 would be go through our site or let 2580 01:44:48,010 --> 01:44:46,160 Chris go through our site we've got some 2581 01:44:49,060 --> 01:44:48,020 fantastic films there pick out the ones 2582 01:44:51,010 --> 01:44:49,070 that you think your audience would be 2583 01:44:53,290 --> 01:44:51,020 interested in and we can give you a 2584 01:44:55,390 --> 01:44:53,300 playlist that you can embed directly on 2585 01:44:57,700 --> 01:44:55,400 the para cast website where your clients 2586 01:44:58,930 --> 01:44:57,710 could go to this page pick out a UFO 2587 01:45:00,910 --> 01:44:58,940 film they want to watch or watch 2588 01:45:02,140 --> 01:45:00,920 everyone in the playlist pay for it 2589 01:45:03,760 --> 01:45:02,150 right there and without ever leaving 2590 01:45:06,130 --> 01:45:03,770 your website watch the movie 2591 01:45:07,900 --> 01:45:06,140 pay-per-view I tell you what folks I'll 2592 01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:07,910 tell you what let's our listeners decide 2593 01:45:12,040 --> 01:45:10,010 if you want to see that kind of service 2594 01:45:14,350 --> 01:45:12,050 and we're going to expand the offerings 2595 01:45:16,360 --> 01:45:14,360 of the para cast we'll get together with 2596 01:45:19,000 --> 01:45:16,370 Ron and set something up we have Ron 2597 01:45:21,030 --> 01:45:19,010 James joining G and Chris you're in the 2598 01:45:29,050 --> 01:45:21,040 para cast 2599 01:45:34,700 --> 01:45:31,270 America's number one source for 2600 01:45:39,890 --> 01:45:34,710 independent authoring for over a decade 2601 01:45:41,660 --> 01:45:39,900 we are the gcn radio network hi this is 2602 01:45:43,850 --> 01:45:41,670 Ted Anderson if you'd like to listen to 2603 01:45:46,490 --> 01:45:43,860 GCN programs on the goal I have great 2604 01:45:48,710 --> 01:45:46,500 news gzn has created a Droid and iPhone 2605 01:45:51,020 --> 01:45:48,720 application and it's free just as easy 2606 01:45:52,940 --> 01:45:51,030 as going to GC and live.com click on the 2607 01:45:54,350 --> 01:45:52,950 banner and download before you know it 2608 01:45:56,360 --> 01:45:54,360 you'll be listening to your 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central bank issuing the 2623 01:46:24,620 --> 01:46:23,520 public currency is a greater menace to 2624 01:46:26,000 --> 01:46:24,630 the liberties of the people than a 2625 01:46:27,410 --> 01:46:26,010 standing army today I understand I'm 2626 01:46:29,240 --> 01:46:27,420 placing a free silver dollar in a book 2627 01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:29,250 that explains our monetary system call 2628 01:46:35,900 --> 01:46:32,730 for your copy 800 686 to 237 it's time 2629 01:46:41,180 --> 01:46:35,910 to understand the system call 866 to 237 2630 01:46:43,340 --> 01:46:41,190 that's 800 686 to 237 I have bought a 2631 01:46:45,680 --> 01:46:43,350 few bottles of heart and body extract 2632 01:46:47,690 --> 01:46:45,690 and have to say that it certainly does 2633 01:46:49,340 --> 01:46:47,700 work that's what Jack from Michigan had 2634 01:46:51,170 --> 01:46:49,350 to say after his experience with heart 2635 01:46:53,210 --> 01:46:51,180 pain and what he did to treat it with 2636 01:46:55,280 --> 01:46:53,220 heart and body extract I actually had a 2637 01:46:57,260 --> 01:46:55,290 huge heart flutter he's also having some 2638 01:47:00,200 --> 01:46:57,270 edema around my ankles and very 2639 01:47:02,330 --> 01:47:00,210 worrisome clot in my right leg that 2640 01:47:04,340 --> 01:47:02,340 would happen from time to time I was 2641 01:47:06,230 --> 01:47:04,350 trying to sleep heart and body extract 2642 01:47:08,300 --> 01:47:06,240 is all natural with no negative side 2643 01:47:10,280 --> 01:47:08,310 effects it will help repair or correct 2644 01:47:12,890 --> 01:47:10,290 past problems associated with the heart 2645 01:47:15,350 --> 01:47:12,900 and body circulation after my second 2646 01:47:18,140 --> 01:47:15,360 bottle of heart and body extract all 2647 01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:18,150 problems are now gone order at HB 2648 01:47:23,540 --> 01:47:20,970 extract calm or call eight six six two 2649 01:47:25,640 --> 01:47:23,550 nine five five three zero five I ordered 2650 01:47:27,350 --> 01:47:25,650 a third bottle of heart and body extract 2651 01:47:29,030 --> 01:47:27,360 for maintenance as I want to keep 2652 01:47:31,190 --> 01:47:29,040 everything working order 2653 01:47:34,940 --> 01:47:31,200 heart and body extract at eight six six 2654 01:47:38,090 --> 01:47:34,950 two nine five five three zero five or HB 2655 01:47:46,390 --> 01:47:38,100 extract calm heart and body extract for 2656 01:47:54,430 --> 01:47:50,120 welcome back to the para cast the gold 2657 01:48:03,140 --> 01:47:54,440 standard of paranormal radio and now 2658 01:48:04,580 --> 01:48:03,150 here's Jane Steinberg so how bout ladies 2659 01:48:07,010 --> 01:48:04,590 and gentlemen would you like to see 2660 01:48:10,819 --> 01:48:07,020 maybe a special channel designed just 2661 01:48:12,740 --> 01:48:10,829 for the para cast from evolved TV you 2662 01:48:14,750 --> 01:48:12,750 know here's what we can do we've got a 2663 01:48:16,160 --> 01:48:14,760 fantastic collection of ghost films a 2664 01:48:18,050 --> 01:48:16,170 lot of which Chris and I have produced 2665 01:48:19,399 --> 01:48:18,060 ourselves we've got a couple new ones 2666 01:48:21,890 --> 01:48:19,409 coming out that are just going to be 2667 01:48:23,780 --> 01:48:21,900 absolutely amazing and then we've got 2668 01:48:25,250 --> 01:48:23,790 the UFO films and we even have the 2669 01:48:27,709 --> 01:48:25,260 entire Citizen hearing on disclosure 2670 01:48:30,140 --> 01:48:27,719 that you as an audience could go to the 2671 01:48:33,410 --> 01:48:30,150 para cast and for a nominal fee watch 2672 01:48:36,140 --> 01:48:33,420 them live at your at your discretion on 2673 01:48:37,760 --> 01:48:36,150 any device you want and so we could do 2674 01:48:40,850 --> 01:48:37,770 that we're talking about educational 2675 01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:40,860 enlightening fun topic related stuff 2676 01:48:45,439 --> 01:48:43,170 that y'all are interested in and as an 2677 01:48:47,660 --> 01:48:45,449 alternative we could do sharks attack 2678 01:48:51,919 --> 01:48:47,670 supermodels in lingerie just decide 2679 01:48:53,959 --> 01:48:51,929 which one you'd rather see brought to 2680 01:48:56,780 --> 01:48:53,969 you by Frederick's of Hollywood and 2681 01:48:58,970 --> 01:48:56,790 Victoria's Secret and conquer kala and 2682 01:49:00,830 --> 01:48:58,980 go touch well if you heard some of the 2683 01:49:04,060 --> 01:49:00,840 ads we run because you know we're on the 2684 01:49:05,540 --> 01:49:04,070 same radio network as the one the only 2685 01:49:09,410 --> 01:49:05,550 Alex Jones 2686 01:49:12,319 --> 01:49:09,420 oh well that's awesome well you know 2687 01:49:14,390 --> 01:49:12,329 Alicia gets people thinking sometimes 2688 01:49:16,819 --> 01:49:14,400 what he has to say a lot of times it's 2689 01:49:18,919 --> 01:49:16,829 kind of wacky to put it mildly well you 2690 01:49:21,109 --> 01:49:18,929 know Chris and I shot a fantastic video 2691 01:49:22,550 --> 01:49:21,119 with none other than David Icke and that 2692 01:49:25,010 --> 01:49:22,560 is another video that we can include 2693 01:49:27,740 --> 01:49:25,020 it's called our time to shine it's David 2694 01:49:29,569 --> 01:49:27,750 and I talking for 70 minutes about 2695 01:49:31,790 --> 01:49:29,579 Barack Obama shortly after the election 2696 01:49:34,970 --> 01:49:31,800 and although some of the information in 2697 01:49:36,859 --> 01:49:34,980 it is dated it does basically show that 2698 01:49:40,459 --> 01:49:36,869 David Icke has the potential to be 2699 01:49:43,040 --> 01:49:40,469 called a prophet I'm gonna ask you some 2700 01:49:46,640 --> 01:49:43,050 questions now Ron okay yeah let's go 2701 01:49:50,109 --> 01:49:46,650 back to 2008 in 2009 Obama is elected 2702 01:49:53,750 --> 01:49:50,119 and you're talking to David Icke and 2703 01:49:55,850 --> 01:49:53,760 what did he predict well he predicted 2704 01:49:57,680 --> 01:49:55,860 that you know Obama was basically just 2705 01:49:59,900 --> 01:49:57,690 another figurehead 2706 01:50:02,660 --> 01:49:59,910 same our different side of the same coin 2707 01:50:04,430 --> 01:50:02,670 and that shortly after his election he 2708 01:50:06,860 --> 01:50:04,440 was going to completely change we all 2709 01:50:08,450 --> 01:50:06,870 know that sometime either right after he 2710 01:50:09,830 --> 01:50:08,460 got elected before he took office or 2711 01:50:12,410 --> 01:50:09,840 shortly after somebody put him down in 2712 01:50:14,720 --> 01:50:12,420 the basement and and and he just hasn't 2713 01:50:16,070 --> 01:50:14,730 been the same sense that always happens 2714 01:50:18,860 --> 01:50:16,080 with the president we go back for 2715 01:50:21,260 --> 01:50:18,870 example to Jimmy Carter and people have 2716 01:50:23,750 --> 01:50:21,270 thought you know what he saw a UFO maybe 2717 01:50:26,150 --> 01:50:23,760 he would get something done once he got 2718 01:50:26,990 --> 01:50:26,160 into the White House and that's what 2719 01:50:29,810 --> 01:50:27,000 always happens 2720 01:50:31,840 --> 01:50:29,820 someone is elected they talk to the 2721 01:50:33,470 --> 01:50:31,850 people they go down to the basement they 2722 01:50:35,690 --> 01:50:33,480 communicate with the people that 2723 01:50:38,660 --> 01:50:35,700 communicate with and they come out of it 2724 01:50:41,930 --> 01:50:38,670 and suddenly what they did and what they 2725 01:50:43,490 --> 01:50:41,940 promised is no longer promised no longer 2726 01:50:45,940 --> 01:50:43,500 exists you know you got to wonder what 2727 01:50:48,200 --> 01:50:45,950 happens I mean it's almost like the the 2728 01:50:50,750 --> 01:50:48,210 alien movies where people are replaced 2729 01:50:52,070 --> 01:50:50,760 by pods and in fact David you know kind 2730 01:50:56,660 --> 01:50:52,080 of thinks that maybe that's what happens 2731 01:50:58,460 --> 01:50:56,670 but I was saying that um you kind of 2732 01:51:00,530 --> 01:50:58,470 wonder these guys go that they get 2733 01:51:02,240 --> 01:51:00,540 elected then they come out and they've 2734 01:51:04,640 --> 01:51:02,250 and they've been changed and it's like 2735 01:51:06,560 --> 01:51:04,650 that that movie where pods replace the 2736 01:51:07,940 --> 01:51:06,570 people and and David kind of thinks that 2737 01:51:09,410 --> 01:51:07,950 too he's like oh yeah it's it's not 2738 01:51:11,390 --> 01:51:09,420 Obama anymore he's been replaced by a 2739 01:51:13,160 --> 01:51:11,400 shape-shifting reptile it's all part of 2740 01:51:15,560 --> 01:51:13,170 the same bloodline Obama Dick Cheney 2741 01:51:18,650 --> 01:51:15,570 they're all cousins right so you know at 2742 01:51:21,170 --> 01:51:18,660 the end of the day something happens to 2743 01:51:23,390 --> 01:51:21,180 these guys and and you have to wonder 2744 01:51:25,700 --> 01:51:23,400 what what is it that they're told that 2745 01:51:28,340 --> 01:51:25,710 could be so shaking that they go into 2746 01:51:30,800 --> 01:51:28,350 office just having these radical visions 2747 01:51:34,520 --> 01:51:30,810 of change and they come out of whatever 2748 01:51:36,410 --> 01:51:34,530 they are whatever is revealed to them 2749 01:51:38,810 --> 01:51:36,420 and all of a sudden they're just playing 2750 01:51:40,610 --> 01:51:38,820 the same old game yeah you know it's 2751 01:51:41,870 --> 01:51:40,620 like what what is it they're being told 2752 01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:41,880 I mean is it something like you know 2753 01:51:44,780 --> 01:51:43,530 don't worry about it the the whole 2754 01:51:46,370 --> 01:51:44,790 planets gonna get wiped out by an 2755 01:51:47,450 --> 01:51:46,380 asteroid it happens every X number of 2756 01:51:49,220 --> 01:51:47,460 years that's why we're building all 2757 01:51:51,500 --> 01:51:49,230 these underground bases save what we can 2758 01:51:55,100 --> 01:51:51,510 it's all a dog and pony show so sit down 2759 01:51:58,070 --> 01:51:55,110 and enjoy it or you know what is it that 2760 01:52:00,320 --> 01:51:58,080 these guys are being told or being 2761 01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:00,330 threatened with that makes them change 2762 01:52:04,550 --> 01:52:02,130 so radically because I honestly believe 2763 01:52:07,820 --> 01:52:04,560 that Barack Obama was an idealistic guy 2764 01:52:11,390 --> 01:52:07,830 with true vision and you know he's and a 2765 01:52:13,280 --> 01:52:11,400 human being and he still is you know but 2766 01:52:16,340 --> 01:52:13,290 he has been way tempered and and he is 2767 01:52:18,710 --> 01:52:16,350 he has been fit to the system rather 2768 01:52:20,030 --> 01:52:18,720 than the system being fit to him so what 2769 01:52:22,640 --> 01:52:20,040 do you think happens to these guys I 2770 01:52:24,770 --> 01:52:22,650 think it's not so much being replaced by 2771 01:52:28,340 --> 01:52:24,780 the pod people well then I think it is 2772 01:52:30,950 --> 01:52:28,350 being told things yeah told things by 2773 01:52:34,520 --> 01:52:30,960 the NSA by secret intelligence people 2774 01:52:36,170 --> 01:52:34,530 being given the first realistic honest 2775 01:52:38,900 --> 01:52:36,180 view of what's going on inside the 2776 01:52:41,780 --> 01:52:38,910 government and realizing that in order 2777 01:52:42,590 --> 01:52:41,790 to survive and not to have an accident 2778 01:52:44,900 --> 01:52:42,600 occur 2779 01:52:47,110 --> 01:52:44,910 they've got to play ball do the best 2780 01:52:50,390 --> 01:52:47,120 they can but they've got to play ball 2781 01:52:51,830 --> 01:52:50,400 well I I need to kind of add this this 2782 01:52:54,620 --> 01:52:51,840 is a pretty interesting story I heard 2783 01:52:56,960 --> 01:52:54,630 last night at the et working group et 2784 01:52:59,120 --> 01:52:56,970 media group that meets once a month at 2785 01:53:02,120 --> 01:52:59,130 Ron's studio well it's interesting that 2786 01:53:04,160 --> 01:53:02,130 this subject it came up about what what 2787 01:53:06,650 --> 01:53:04,170 these politicians are told once they get 2788 01:53:09,760 --> 01:53:06,660 into office last night at Ron's studio 2789 01:53:12,970 --> 01:53:09,770 they had their monthly et media group 2790 01:53:15,890 --> 01:53:12,980 gathering that Steven Bassett sort of 2791 01:53:18,020 --> 01:53:15,900 chairs and inputs together and the the 2792 01:53:20,660 --> 01:53:18,030 guest speaker was Jesse Ventura's son 2793 01:53:22,430 --> 01:53:20,670 Tyrel Ventura and he told a very 2794 01:53:24,950 --> 01:53:22,440 interesting story that I'm not sure many 2795 01:53:29,300 --> 01:53:24,960 of our listeners are aware of about his 2796 01:53:30,740 --> 01:53:29,310 dad as soon as he was elected much to 2797 01:53:34,280 --> 01:53:30,750 everyone's surprise governor of 2798 01:53:36,830 --> 01:53:34,290 Minnesota it was quite a I think a 2799 01:53:39,740 --> 01:53:36,840 wake-up call to the status quo in the 2800 01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:39,750 powers of be because one day he sat down 2801 01:53:45,350 --> 01:53:43,050 early in his administration when he was 2802 01:53:47,300 --> 01:53:45,360 taking office he sat down and he noticed 2803 01:53:49,280 --> 01:53:47,310 that there was a meeting scheduled for 2804 01:53:51,140 --> 01:53:49,290 the end of the day but there was but the 2805 01:53:53,240 --> 01:53:51,150 actual person he was supposed to be 2806 01:53:56,900 --> 01:53:53,250 meeting with the name was blank on on 2807 01:54:00,560 --> 01:53:56,910 his his you know as his schedule so he 2808 01:54:01,730 --> 01:54:00,570 asked his his adviser whoever put in his 2809 01:54:03,170 --> 01:54:01,740 secretary whoever put the schedule 2810 01:54:06,860 --> 01:54:03,180 together and they said well you know 2811 01:54:08,950 --> 01:54:06,870 it's actually the CIA it wants to meet 2812 01:54:11,810 --> 01:54:08,960 with you and so you know Jesse was a 2813 01:54:13,370 --> 01:54:11,820 special ops guy and he I think he did 2814 01:54:16,370 --> 01:54:13,380 have some dealings a little bit here and 2815 01:54:18,890 --> 01:54:16,380 there with with citizens in action or 2816 01:54:20,690 --> 01:54:18,900 Christians and in action as they are 2817 01:54:23,150 --> 01:54:20,700 fondly referred to in the specop 2818 01:54:25,430 --> 01:54:23,160 community and so at the end of the day 2819 01:54:31,070 --> 01:54:25,440 we went down and there were 23 2820 01:54:32,390 --> 01:54:31,080 CIA operatives or officers or I don't 2821 01:54:34,100 --> 01:54:32,400 know what you'd want to call them but 2822 01:54:36,560 --> 01:54:34,110 they were all you know card gain members 2823 01:54:40,070 --> 01:54:36,570 of that particular organization agency 2824 01:54:41,360 --> 01:54:40,080 and they sat in a semicircle around them 2825 01:54:43,190 --> 01:54:41,370 and they started pumping him with 2826 01:54:45,980 --> 01:54:43,200 questions and Jesse's whoa wait a minute 2827 01:54:48,650 --> 01:54:45,990 you know once you introduce yourselves 2828 01:54:50,840 --> 01:54:48,660 and he said the tie said about half of 2829 01:54:53,330 --> 01:54:50,850 them actually gave you know Jesse their 2830 01:54:55,280 --> 01:54:53,340 names but basically they started 2831 01:54:57,470 --> 01:54:55,290 peppering them about how he managed to 2832 01:54:59,630 --> 01:54:57,480 win the governorship of Minnesota and 2833 01:55:01,670 --> 01:54:59,640 Jesse could tell right away that they 2834 01:55:03,320 --> 01:55:01,680 were interested in in figuring out how 2835 01:55:06,080 --> 01:55:03,330 he was able to do something that they 2836 01:55:07,660 --> 01:55:06,090 they were unable to predict and and and 2837 01:55:10,760 --> 01:55:07,670 they were trying to figure out you know 2838 01:55:12,920 --> 01:55:10,770 his methodology and and how he actually 2839 01:55:16,190 --> 01:55:12,930 pulled it off and I guess the upshot of 2840 01:55:18,530 --> 01:55:16,200 the story is that that Jesse walked away 2841 01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:18,540 from the meeting with the firm you know 2842 01:55:22,490 --> 01:55:20,850 feeling that they were trying to figure 2843 01:55:24,560 --> 01:55:22,500 out how he did it so that they could 2844 01:55:28,160 --> 01:55:24,570 somehow circumvent it ever happening 2845 01:55:31,730 --> 01:55:28,170 again so there's an example of a 2846 01:55:34,010 --> 01:55:31,740 governor who is elected much of the 2847 01:55:37,940 --> 01:55:34,020 surprise of the entrenched powers of B 2848 01:55:40,730 --> 01:55:37,950 and then being quizzed by none other 2849 01:55:42,950 --> 01:55:40,740 than our our own you know Central 2850 01:55:44,810 --> 01:55:42,960 Intelligence Agency officials and and 2851 01:55:47,180 --> 01:55:44,820 one of the things that kind of puzzles 2852 01:55:50,440 --> 01:55:47,190 me is number one what is the CIA doing 2853 01:55:53,300 --> 01:55:50,450 interested in a governor when their 2854 01:55:55,940 --> 01:55:53,310 mandate at this point in time was only 2855 01:55:57,470 --> 01:55:55,950 foreign affairs and and there they were 2856 01:55:59,270 --> 01:55:57,480 not authorized to operate domestically 2857 01:56:01,250 --> 01:55:59,280 so what's wrong with that picture 2858 01:56:04,210 --> 01:56:01,260 of course now with the Patriot Act and 2859 01:56:07,250 --> 01:56:04,220 the the NDAA and all these other 2860 01:56:08,900 --> 01:56:07,260 developments since 9/11 of course the 2861 01:56:11,570 --> 01:56:08,910 CIA can operate wherever they want now 2862 01:56:14,750 --> 01:56:11,580 but at the time I think this was 98 this 2863 01:56:16,760 --> 01:56:14,760 was not the case and and you know that 2864 01:56:20,090 --> 01:56:16,770 you do have to wonder what these guys 2865 01:56:22,670 --> 01:56:20,100 are told what they're what sort of sort 2866 01:56:26,060 --> 01:56:22,680 of democrates is held over their heads 2867 01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:26,070 or their family's heads in order to get 2868 01:56:32,030 --> 01:56:29,250 them to to to play the game as it's been 2869 01:56:34,930 --> 01:56:32,040 agreed upon at some high level of power 2870 01:56:37,720 --> 01:56:34,940 and I think that this this is 2871 01:56:40,300 --> 01:56:37,730 a rather disturbing element that's 2872 01:56:42,520 --> 01:56:40,310 involved in our political process the 2873 01:56:44,260 --> 01:56:42,530 undue influence of the you know the 2874 01:56:48,640 --> 01:56:44,270 military-industrial intelligence 2875 01:56:50,320 --> 01:56:48,650 corporate complex and you know we're 2876 01:56:52,689 --> 01:56:50,330 going downhill fast with all this the 2877 01:56:54,790 --> 01:56:52,699 the haves are getting fewer and have 2878 01:56:57,640 --> 01:56:54,800 more and have-nots are getting less and 2879 01:57:00,100 --> 01:56:57,650 getting angry so this is something that 2880 01:57:01,540 --> 01:57:00,110 is going to come to a head at some point 2881 01:57:03,760 --> 01:57:01,550 I don't think the American people are 2882 01:57:06,939 --> 01:57:03,770 going to put up with with it's gonna 2883 01:57:09,400 --> 01:57:06,949 have to reach a tipping point so I just 2884 01:57:13,810 --> 01:57:09,410 wanted to pass along that story I also 2885 01:57:16,150 --> 01:57:13,820 quiz ty Tyrell about the the skinwalker 2886 01:57:18,910 --> 01:57:16,160 ranch episode that I was involved with 2887 01:57:22,180 --> 01:57:18,920 with Jesse's show conspiracy theory and 2888 01:57:24,520 --> 01:57:22,190 I ask you that my next segment okay we 2889 01:57:27,220 --> 01:57:24,530 why know what mr. Ventura and you talked 2890 01:57:32,430 --> 01:57:27,230 about with Gene and Chris and Ron James 2891 01:57:44,439 --> 01:57:40,439 [Music] 2892 01:57:46,600 --> 01:57:44,449 is there a secret UFO agenda to strange 2893 01:57:49,060 --> 01:57:46,610 creatures from the darkest corners of 2894 01:57:51,850 --> 01:57:49,070 the mind roam the earth is there 2895 01:57:55,479 --> 01:57:51,860 evidence for mind control time travel or 2896 01:57:57,100 --> 01:57:55,489 devious government conspiracies find out 2897 01:57:59,709 --> 01:57:57,110 the inside scoop on the latest 2898 01:58:02,319 --> 01:57:59,719 conspiracies paranormal activity and 2899 01:58:05,290 --> 01:58:02,329 important phenomena when you subscribe 2900 01:58:08,109 --> 01:58:05,300 to Tim Beckley's conspiracy girl it's 2901 01:58:10,810 --> 01:58:08,119 jam-packed with stories special book and 2902 01:58:13,000 --> 01:58:10,820 DVD promotions and the best news that's 2903 01:58:16,120 --> 01:58:13,010 absolutely free sent 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know they are listening now 2987 02:02:12,150 --> 02:02:10,390 we know they are here we know that maybe 2988 02:02:13,440 --> 02:02:12,160 there you have fans you know you're at 2989 02:02:16,230 --> 02:02:13,450 the NSA and you're listening to the 2990 02:02:21,150 --> 02:02:16,240 power cast you're a fan send us a tweet 2991 02:02:22,860 --> 02:02:21,160 or something you know yeah yeah we need 2992 02:02:24,570 --> 02:02:22,870 our own deep throat to tell us when 2993 02:02:28,290 --> 02:02:24,580 we're skirting on that line that might 2994 02:02:31,830 --> 02:02:28,300 get us renditioned I think that's 2995 02:02:34,290 --> 02:02:31,840 already happened that's what it is that 2996 02:02:37,340 --> 02:02:34,300 explains everything but you were about 2997 02:02:42,930 --> 02:02:37,350 to say you were talking with ty about 2998 02:02:45,720 --> 02:02:42,940 skinwalker ranch yeah and it's pretty 2999 02:02:48,750 --> 02:02:45,730 interesting he he pretty much said that 3000 02:02:51,180 --> 02:02:48,760 it was the truTV corporate side that 3001 02:02:54,030 --> 02:02:51,190 that was involved in changing the show 3002 02:02:55,500 --> 02:02:54,040 from what I was told by one of the 3003 02:02:57,780 --> 02:02:55,510 executive producers was some of the best 3004 02:03:00,000 --> 02:02:57,790 work he'd ever done it was an incredibly 3005 02:03:01,620 --> 02:03:00,010 good fantastic episode and then by the 3006 02:03:04,980 --> 02:03:01,630 time it came out it was just merely good 3007 02:03:07,620 --> 02:03:04,990 which I almost have a problem with even 3008 02:03:10,740 --> 02:03:07,630 putting that tag on it but we should go 3009 02:03:12,270 --> 02:03:10,750 back a little bit here you were asked to 3010 02:03:13,980 --> 02:03:12,280 be part of this show well I helped 3011 02:03:15,000 --> 02:03:13,990 develop the show I was involved from the 3012 02:03:16,800 --> 02:03:15,010 very beginning 3013 02:03:18,650 --> 02:03:16,810 developing the show the subjects they 3014 02:03:20,430 --> 02:03:18,660 were going to cover some of the 3015 02:03:23,220 --> 02:03:20,440 particular angles they were going to 3016 02:03:27,210 --> 02:03:23,230 take the show was about Robert Bigelow 3017 02:03:29,340 --> 02:03:27,220 the budget Suites Hotel chain owner and 3018 02:03:32,280 --> 02:03:29,350 and multi-billionaire who has recently 3019 02:03:35,850 --> 02:03:32,290 been tasked by NASA and hired by NASA to 3020 02:03:38,250 --> 02:03:35,860 supply modules for the u.s. space 3021 02:03:40,650 --> 02:03:38,260 program for the space station and his 3022 02:03:43,500 --> 02:03:40,660 ultimate goal is to put a hotel in space 3023 02:03:45,960 --> 02:03:43,510 with Bigelow Aerospace he's also the one 3024 02:03:48,750 --> 02:03:45,970 that the FAA entered into an agreement 3025 02:03:50,760 --> 02:03:48,760 with so that when anyone calls the 3026 02:03:52,860 --> 02:03:50,770 federal Aeronautics administration with 3027 02:03:56,640 --> 02:03:52,870 a UFO report it is automatically 3028 02:03:58,260 --> 02:03:56,650 forwarded to Bigelow Aerospace a lot of 3029 02:04:00,660 --> 02:03:58,270 people aren't aware of that and I like 3030 02:04:02,610 --> 02:04:00,670 to keep reminding people of this the 3031 02:04:05,220 --> 02:04:02,620 show was about Robert Bigelow but of 3032 02:04:07,590 --> 02:04:05,230 course the skinwalker ranch is one of 3033 02:04:09,090 --> 02:04:07,600 the more visible projects that he's 3034 02:04:10,729 --> 02:04:09,100 involved with at least in the realm of 3035 02:04:13,310 --> 02:04:10,739 ufos in the paranormal 3036 02:04:15,430 --> 02:04:13,320 and as we all know I was involved very 3037 02:04:17,570 --> 02:04:15,440 early on back in the mid 90s 3038 02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:17,580 investigating the case before Bigelow 3039 02:04:22,550 --> 02:04:19,530 was involved when Bigelow bought the 3040 02:04:25,790 --> 02:04:22,560 ranch then he put a whole team of crack 3041 02:04:27,709 --> 02:04:25,800 scientists up there we don't know 3042 02:04:30,709 --> 02:04:27,719 exactly what kind of data they ended up 3043 02:04:34,010 --> 02:04:30,719 gathering we do know that some amazing 3044 02:04:36,229 --> 02:04:34,020 events occurred word of these events of 3045 02:04:37,970 --> 02:04:36,239 some of them have come out in the George 3046 02:04:40,130 --> 02:04:37,980 Knapp cone Kelleher book hunt for the 3047 02:04:42,440 --> 02:04:40,140 skinwalker which is about the Sherman 3048 02:04:44,810 --> 02:04:42,450 ranch up there when we went up there for 3049 02:04:46,520 --> 02:04:44,820 the conspiracy theory show to do the 3050 02:04:48,920 --> 02:04:46,530 shoot we had a couple of interesting 3051 02:04:51,050 --> 02:04:48,930 experiences while we were there by the 3052 02:04:53,060 --> 02:04:51,060 time eight months went by and the show 3053 02:04:55,010 --> 02:04:53,070 was revised I don't know how many times 3054 02:04:58,670 --> 02:04:55,020 at least eight to ten times if not more 3055 02:05:01,430 --> 02:04:58,680 the show was watered down into a puff 3056 02:05:04,610 --> 02:05:01,440 piece that ended up at the very end 3057 02:05:07,430 --> 02:05:04,620 summing up Bigelow's interest in the UFO 3058 02:05:09,770 --> 02:05:07,440 question as well he's building an escape 3059 02:05:12,430 --> 02:05:09,780 pod in space so when the aliens invade 3060 02:05:15,100 --> 02:05:12,440 earth he has a place to escape to to his 3061 02:05:18,410 --> 02:05:15,110 inflatable space station that he owns 3062 02:05:20,360 --> 02:05:18,420 which is ludicrous and of course I had 3063 02:05:22,640 --> 02:05:20,370 some problems with the editing of the 3064 02:05:24,800 --> 02:05:22,650 show I was taken my my comments were 3065 02:05:26,840 --> 02:05:24,810 twisted around and actually they had me 3066 02:05:28,850 --> 02:05:26,850 saying the opposite the exact opposite 3067 02:05:31,670 --> 02:05:28,860 of what I actually said and what I would 3068 02:05:33,470 --> 02:05:31,680 I stand behind and Tigh apologized 3069 02:05:36,920 --> 02:05:33,480 publicly there and said look you know I 3070 02:05:39,350 --> 02:05:36,930 I'm really sorry that this happened the 3071 02:05:41,120 --> 02:05:39,360 show has been taken out of production 3072 02:05:43,820 --> 02:05:41,130 truTV didn't realize what they were 3073 02:05:45,700 --> 02:05:43,830 getting into it was too too much of a 3074 02:05:48,170 --> 02:05:45,710 hot potato for them they had to 3075 02:05:50,300 --> 02:05:48,180 obviously he didn't say this but 3076 02:05:52,910 --> 02:05:50,310 obviously I think the the corporate side 3077 02:05:54,770 --> 02:05:52,920 was bowing to pressure and trying to 3078 02:05:56,780 --> 02:05:54,780 observe undue pressure on the actual 3079 02:05:59,600 --> 02:05:56,790 content he said they would get these 3080 02:06:01,430 --> 02:05:59,610 these lists of revisions from corporate 3081 02:06:03,590 --> 02:06:01,440 types who were trying to get creative 3082 02:06:05,660 --> 02:06:03,600 and when that happens you might as well 3083 02:06:07,850 --> 02:06:05,670 just kiss the project to buy because 3084 02:06:09,530 --> 02:06:07,860 suits are not normally creative types 3085 02:06:11,120 --> 02:06:09,540 are being counters that's their job and 3086 02:06:14,090 --> 02:06:11,130 when they get involved in the creative 3087 02:06:18,260 --> 02:06:14,100 process you know it really messes things 3088 02:06:20,810 --> 02:06:18,270 up so he was upset about about how the 3089 02:06:24,570 --> 02:06:20,820 network handled the show you know made a 3090 02:06:27,240 --> 02:06:24,580 public apology for at least my protect 3091 02:06:29,040 --> 02:06:27,250 issues that I had with my on camera 3092 02:06:31,919 --> 02:06:29,050 participation how it was betrayed and 3093 02:06:34,169 --> 02:06:31,929 he's gone on it has an E channel on the 3094 02:06:35,760 --> 02:06:34,179 on YouTube called buzzsaw which looks 3095 02:06:38,129 --> 02:06:35,770 like a really good idea he and Sean 3096 02:06:40,470 --> 02:06:38,139 stone Oliver Stone son have their own 3097 02:06:43,530 --> 02:06:40,480 show that looks at you know important 3098 02:06:46,140 --> 02:06:43,540 controversial topics of the day and with 3099 02:06:48,600 --> 02:06:46,150 no you know no filter there they're 3100 02:06:52,200 --> 02:06:48,610 actually covering you know the Snowden 3101 02:06:54,120 --> 02:06:52,210 affair with the NSA and a lot of very I 3102 02:06:56,399 --> 02:06:54,130 think important current Current Affair 3103 02:07:00,300 --> 02:06:56,409 topics so so it was very interesting to 3104 02:07:02,100 --> 02:07:00,310 get an insider's view and subsequent 3105 02:07:04,320 --> 02:07:02,110 apology for stuff that was out of his 3106 02:07:07,169 --> 02:07:04,330 control I mean he wasn't in the editing 3107 02:07:09,419 --> 02:07:07,179 room changing my dialogue around you 3108 02:07:11,040 --> 02:07:09,429 know that was all done by others and 3109 02:07:12,540 --> 02:07:11,050 that's one reason why the show is not 3110 02:07:14,520 --> 02:07:12,550 gonna be on the air anymore is because 3111 02:07:16,410 --> 02:07:14,530 they just did not want to bow to that 3112 02:07:19,649 --> 02:07:16,420 kind of undue influence you were on 3113 02:07:22,680 --> 02:07:19,659 another show once upon time with a guy 3114 02:07:26,790 --> 02:07:22,690 who's associated with UFO magazine bill 3115 02:07:28,860 --> 02:07:26,800 burns what where they also edited what 3116 02:07:31,020 --> 02:07:28,870 you did what you said and made it very 3117 02:07:33,600 --> 02:07:31,030 much opposite of what you expect well 3118 02:07:35,370 --> 02:07:33,610 not opposite I was explaining about my 3119 02:07:37,950 --> 02:07:35,380 theories of hot spot areas and portal 3120 02:07:39,540 --> 02:07:37,960 areas as it related to my work as a 3121 02:07:42,320 --> 02:07:39,550 field investigator in the San Luis 3122 02:07:44,910 --> 02:07:42,330 Valley of Colorado and they edited this 3123 02:07:47,160 --> 02:07:44,920 particular interview to sound like I was 3124 02:07:49,680 --> 02:07:47,170 talking about the Sedona area it's not 3125 02:07:51,990 --> 02:07:49,690 that they they changed it to 180 degrees 3126 02:07:53,970 --> 02:07:52,000 all they did was move the location that 3127 02:07:55,229 --> 02:07:53,980 I was referring to and made it sound 3128 02:07:57,330 --> 02:07:55,239 like all this work that I was talking 3129 02:07:59,879 --> 02:07:57,340 about was about Sedona and it wasn't it 3130 02:08:01,800 --> 02:07:59,889 was about an area that was 350 400 miles 3131 02:08:04,260 --> 02:08:01,810 away why did they do that 3132 02:08:06,240 --> 02:08:04,270 well because bill burns loves Sedona and 3133 02:08:08,370 --> 02:08:06,250 he wants to donut to be the the the 3134 02:08:10,890 --> 02:08:08,380 center of the universe the you falah 3135 02:08:13,890 --> 02:08:10,900 djegal universe and unfortunately that's 3136 02:08:16,620 --> 02:08:13,900 not the case and I don't blame him 3137 02:08:18,840 --> 02:08:16,630 personally but I sure have an issue with 3138 02:08:22,200 --> 02:08:18,850 Dave Pavoni the the guy who was in 3139 02:08:24,030 --> 02:08:22,210 charge of production and I do under I 3140 02:08:27,030 --> 02:08:24,040 understand they've written a book about 3141 02:08:28,890 --> 02:08:27,040 the UFO hunters show where they go 3142 02:08:31,470 --> 02:08:28,900 through episode by episode and explain 3143 02:08:32,850 --> 02:08:31,480 in book form the process of putting the 3144 02:08:35,530 --> 02:08:32,860 show together what they discovered 3145 02:08:37,150 --> 02:08:35,540 adding things that they left out and I 3146 02:08:39,180 --> 02:08:37,160 yes I am mentioned in there as being 3147 02:08:41,680 --> 02:08:39,190 very unhappy with how they treated my 3148 02:08:43,330 --> 02:08:41,690 particular involvement in the the 3149 02:08:46,570 --> 02:08:43,340 project I think it was show number 5 3150 02:08:48,670 --> 02:08:46,580 season 1 of UFO 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02:09:14,870 so there you go well normally the on-air 3165 02:09:19,210 --> 02:09:16,910 talent doesn't have anything to do with 3166 02:09:21,640 --> 02:09:19,220 the post-production process maybe 3167 02:09:24,820 --> 02:09:21,650 they're brought in to sign off on stuff 3168 02:09:26,710 --> 02:09:24,830 or to have them Pat the producers on the 3169 02:09:28,300 --> 02:09:26,720 back or something but but generally once 3170 02:09:30,970 --> 02:09:28,310 that shows in the can it's out of your 3171 02:09:35,440 --> 02:09:30,980 hands and and that's why projects like 3172 02:09:38,590 --> 02:09:35,450 evolve TV Ron's work eivol TV and Tracy 3173 02:09:40,000 --> 02:09:38,600 and James's film I think are real steps 3174 02:09:41,920 --> 02:09:40,010 in the right direction because what 3175 02:09:44,410 --> 02:09:41,930 we're doing is we're losing the filters 3176 02:09:46,840 --> 02:09:44,420 and the the corporate control that 3177 02:09:49,720 --> 02:09:46,850 stands between the 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02:15:15,810 --> 02:15:11,530 about whether it's possible to change 3303 02:15:18,899 --> 02:15:15,820 make changes in the way that documentary 3304 02:15:22,040 --> 02:15:18,909 films anything educational is presented 3305 02:15:24,899 --> 02:15:22,050 wouldn't get away from our culture of 3306 02:15:26,790 --> 02:15:24,909 reality shows which to my mind are 3307 02:15:28,259 --> 02:15:26,800 perfectly awful I mean if I'm going to 3308 02:15:29,159 --> 02:15:28,269 watch TV and I want to watch something 3309 02:15:31,679 --> 02:15:29,169 that's fiction 3310 02:15:33,270 --> 02:15:31,689 I'll watch a scripted drama sometimes 3311 02:15:35,790 --> 02:15:33,280 they're pretty good yeah I like 3312 02:15:38,009 --> 02:15:35,800 Deadliest Catch I've been a fan of that 3313 02:15:40,560 --> 02:15:38,019 show since it came out I I was almost a 3314 02:15:42,659 --> 02:15:40,570 last of fishermen so I have a personal 3315 02:15:44,429 --> 02:15:42,669 kind of just interest in the subject but 3316 02:15:46,799 --> 02:15:44,439 I think out of all the reality shows 3317 02:15:48,359 --> 02:15:46,809 there are a few good ones and Deadliest 3318 02:15:50,069 --> 02:15:48,369 Catch is up there at the top of my list 3319 02:15:52,500 --> 02:15:50,079 I think that's a very very well done 3320 02:15:54,779 --> 02:15:52,510 show these guys are extremely brave to 3321 02:15:57,149 --> 02:15:54,789 go out and crab fish in the Bering Sea 3322 02:15:58,859 --> 02:15:57,159 and I think Ron correct me if I'm wrong 3323 02:16:00,299 --> 02:15:58,869 but I think two guys from the cruise 3324 02:16:02,189 --> 02:16:00,309 have been severely injured or died 3325 02:16:05,129 --> 02:16:02,199 during the production of seven years of 3326 02:16:07,319 --> 02:16:05,139 the show yeah they have you know another 3327 02:16:09,959 --> 02:16:07,329 one that's very popular and very 3328 02:16:11,399 --> 02:16:09,969 frightening I've always we have an 3329 02:16:12,750 --> 02:16:11,409 eleven-year-old here and I'm always 3330 02:16:15,599 --> 02:16:12,760 trying to turn him on to things like 3331 02:16:16,979 --> 02:16:15,609 sci-fi and alien stuff and and ghost 3332 02:16:18,659 --> 02:16:16,989 stuff and get him into that kind of 3333 02:16:21,299 --> 02:16:18,669 thing I accidentally let him watch Swamp 3334 02:16:23,159 --> 02:16:21,309 People and he just became so hooked on 3335 02:16:25,349 --> 02:16:23,169 that show that now he's talking like the 3336 02:16:28,529 --> 02:16:25,359 people he doesn't want his tooth to grow 3337 02:16:30,389 --> 02:16:28,539 back he he downloaded the flash game so 3338 02:16:32,939 --> 02:16:30,399 now he's catching fake alligators on his 3339 02:16:34,320 --> 02:16:32,949 iPad it's just it's just not good and 3340 02:16:35,609 --> 02:16:34,330 I'm like Jonathan what are you gonna be 3341 02:16:37,859 --> 02:16:35,619 when you grow up I thought you wanted to 3342 02:16:39,929 --> 02:16:37,869 be an Apple engineer no I want to go to 3343 02:16:41,969 --> 02:16:39,939 the swamp and be Troy I want to pop 3344 02:16:44,219 --> 02:16:41,979 Gators I'm like oh my god what have I 3345 02:16:46,109 --> 02:16:44,229 done what has this evil media machine 3346 02:16:48,179 --> 02:16:46,119 done to the child of this house 3347 02:16:49,799 --> 02:16:48,189 so you know and and then the rest of the 3348 02:16:52,259 --> 02:16:49,809 world is watching this show and they see 3349 02:16:54,089 --> 02:16:52,269 these guys like Troy and this this these 3350 02:16:55,709 --> 02:16:54,099 toothless rednecks out there in the 3351 02:16:58,080 --> 02:16:55,719 middle of the swamp going around 3352 02:16:59,639 --> 02:16:58,090 shooting alligators and and they're 3353 02:17:01,439 --> 02:16:59,649 probably sitting over in China and 3354 02:17:03,509 --> 02:17:01,449 Russia going really how did these guys 3355 02:17:06,419 --> 02:17:03,519 get where they are I don't get it so 3356 02:17:07,589 --> 02:17:06,429 yeah it's sad the level of reality show 3357 02:17:09,070 --> 02:17:07,599 they're getting they're getting worse 3358 02:17:10,900 --> 02:17:09,080 and worse there 3359 02:17:13,300 --> 02:17:10,910 looking for the most outrageous crazy 3360 02:17:15,820 --> 02:17:13,310 disturbed characters they can find in 3361 02:17:17,770 --> 02:17:15,830 giving them their own TV shows yes 3362 02:17:19,330 --> 02:17:17,780 they're not giving us a TV show I'm not 3363 02:17:21,700 --> 02:17:19,340 looking for a TV show I don't want to be 3364 02:17:24,250 --> 02:17:21,710 on TV as I said I would be the voice 3365 02:17:26,770 --> 02:17:24,260 behind the camera you know watch the 3366 02:17:28,540 --> 02:17:26,780 people watch the action but I'll stay 3367 02:17:31,450 --> 02:17:28,550 behind I still have to think about the 3368 02:17:33,910 --> 02:17:31,460 mask though you think maybe the unknown 3369 02:17:35,800 --> 02:17:33,920 comic mask doesn't make it maybe the 3370 02:17:37,570 --> 02:17:35,810 mask from the movie the shadow the one 3371 02:17:40,839 --> 02:17:37,580 with Alec Baldwin remember he wore a 3372 02:17:43,690 --> 02:17:40,849 mask eyes is that his face became very 3373 02:17:45,790 --> 02:17:43,700 hard and distorted when you came the 3374 02:17:48,850 --> 02:17:45,800 shadow put on the Guy Fawkes mask 3375 02:17:52,150 --> 02:17:48,860 you know the occupy mask sure yeah the 3376 02:17:53,470 --> 02:17:52,160 vendetta masks I can go for that but 3377 02:17:55,660 --> 02:17:53,480 some people think that's the way I look 3378 02:17:57,970 --> 02:17:55,670 now well then you wouldn't have to give 3379 02:18:00,910 --> 02:17:57,980 credit to the mask makers hey that's 3380 02:18:02,440 --> 02:18:00,920 right that's good the point is is that 3381 02:18:04,030 --> 02:18:02,450 if you want to be on television and do 3382 02:18:06,310 --> 02:18:04,040 it anonymously there's there are 3383 02:18:08,680 --> 02:18:06,320 certainly ways to do that we'll just 3384 02:18:10,030 --> 02:18:08,690 shoot the back of your head yeah there's 3385 02:18:13,270 --> 02:18:10,040 probably a whole mystique we could build 3386 02:18:15,730 --> 02:18:13,280 you know it's just my voice I am an 3387 02:18:17,260 --> 02:18:15,740 amorphous voice yeah you could be the 3388 02:18:18,820 --> 02:18:17,270 disembodied voice of the show and every 3389 02:18:24,760 --> 02:18:18,830 once in a while you can fill in and be a 3390 02:18:26,410 --> 02:18:24,770 EVP what was that it was a voice from 3391 02:18:27,790 --> 02:18:26,420 nowhere no he's part of the cast no 3392 02:18:29,200 --> 02:18:27,800 really it was another voice from nowhere 3393 02:18:31,750 --> 02:18:29,210 no really it's part of the cast he's 3394 02:18:34,270 --> 02:18:31,760 faking it oh yeah shoot sorry well I 3395 02:18:37,150 --> 02:18:34,280 could always become a Dalek a robotic 3396 02:18:40,959 --> 02:18:37,160 creature that says exterminate you know 3397 02:18:42,459 --> 02:18:40,969 you could be a cartoon character this is 3398 02:18:44,470 --> 02:18:42,469 the new para cast challenge to the 3399 02:18:47,589 --> 02:18:44,480 audience help us design to show you 3400 02:18:50,020 --> 02:18:47,599 would like to see us do and we will do 3401 02:18:52,240 --> 02:18:50,030 it and then you can pay a dollar 99 to 3402 02:18:54,280 --> 02:18:52,250 watch it that is the new agreement that 3403 02:18:56,290 --> 02:18:54,290 media producers and the people who watch 3404 02:18:58,450 --> 02:18:56,300 their stuff need to have tell me what 3405 02:19:00,100 --> 02:18:58,460 you want I'll make it for you and then 3406 02:19:01,750 --> 02:19:00,110 help me to cover what it cost me to do 3407 02:19:04,450 --> 02:19:01,760 it so that I can have a nice life and 3408 02:19:07,209 --> 02:19:04,460 what's happening in media now is I make 3409 02:19:08,680 --> 02:19:07,219 a film and the audience absolutely 3410 02:19:11,140 --> 02:19:08,690 expects that they should be able to 3411 02:19:12,820 --> 02:19:11,150 watch it on YouTube for free and then if 3412 02:19:14,560 --> 02:19:12,830 I make a stink about it I had a guy that 3413 02:19:16,629 --> 02:19:14,570 kept putting dead Whisperer on YouTube I 3414 02:19:18,339 --> 02:19:16,639 chased him down five times and the last 3415 02:19:20,260 --> 02:19:18,349 time he took it down he put an 3416 02:19:22,209 --> 02:19:20,270 explanation on his YouTube channel that 3417 02:19:23,370 --> 02:19:22,219 the a-hole who made the movie made him 3418 02:19:25,629 --> 02:19:23,380 take it 3419 02:19:28,929 --> 02:19:25,639 just kidding me 3420 02:19:31,269 --> 02:19:28,939 isn't that just too bad but you dare to 3421 02:19:32,559 --> 02:19:31,279 assert your intellectual property rights 3422 02:19:34,179 --> 02:19:32,569 and your copyright well apparently 3423 02:19:35,439 --> 02:19:34,189 apparently you have none you know and 3424 02:19:38,830 --> 02:19:35,449 this one guy wrote us a letter of 3425 02:19:41,379 --> 02:19:38,840 Citizen hearing lambasting us for not 3426 02:19:44,139 --> 02:19:41,389 making the Citizen hearing free and I 3427 02:19:45,669 --> 02:19:44,149 said to him in my reply I said well I 3428 02:19:47,559 --> 02:19:45,679 mean would you go to work and do your 3429 02:19:54,070 --> 02:19:47,569 job for free just because people think 3430 02:19:55,420 --> 02:19:54,080 they're entitled to clean dishes yeah it 3431 02:19:57,670 --> 02:19:55,430 was a great comeback but you know it 3432 02:19:59,380 --> 02:19:57,680 illustrates a point nobody works for 3433 02:20:01,689 --> 02:19:59,390 free but for some reason filmmakers 3434 02:20:04,210 --> 02:20:01,699 content creators and social movers and 3435 02:20:06,790 --> 02:20:04,220 shakers are like we owe ya like we owe 3436 02:20:08,580 --> 02:20:06,800 something to the planet and and we and 3437 02:20:11,080 --> 02:20:08,590 we should be sleeping in our vans and 3438 02:20:12,969 --> 02:20:11,090 you know that's it's just not the way 3439 02:20:15,429 --> 02:20:12,979 it's gonna work and if people continue 3440 02:20:17,110 --> 02:20:15,439 to look at content creators and 3441 02:20:19,360 --> 02:20:17,120 intellectual property is something 3442 02:20:22,000 --> 02:20:19,370 that's not just as real as shoplifting a 3443 02:20:23,710 --> 02:20:22,010 stake it bit Ralphs then we're gonna 3444 02:20:25,479 --> 02:20:23,720 have a problem with the quality of media 3445 02:20:28,300 --> 02:20:25,489 there is a revolution happening right 3446 02:20:30,939 --> 02:20:28,310 now where good quality truthful honest 3447 02:20:33,280 --> 02:20:30,949 media can move the agenda of the planet 3448 02:20:35,410 --> 02:20:33,290 forward in a positive way but it still 3449 02:20:36,969 --> 02:20:35,420 has to be supported and that's what 3450 02:20:38,410 --> 02:20:36,979 we're trying to do with evolve TV and 3451 02:20:39,790 --> 02:20:38,420 hopefully the audience is gonna get that 3452 02:20:41,559 --> 02:20:39,800 and they're gonna say you know what I 3453 02:20:43,450 --> 02:20:41,569 don't mind it's just like Apple came out 3454 02:20:45,519 --> 02:20:43,460 with iTunes people didn't mind suddenly 3455 02:20:47,979 --> 02:20:45,529 paying the doc the 99 cents for a piece 3456 02:20:49,780 --> 02:20:47,989 of music because they made it easy and I 3457 02:20:52,570 --> 02:20:49,790 think it's the same way with media even 3458 02:20:54,790 --> 02:20:52,580 YouTube Netflix all of the big studios 3459 02:20:56,979 --> 02:20:54,800 are moving towards a pay-per-view model 3460 02:20:59,410 --> 02:20:56,989 YouTube is rolling it out they're gonna 3461 02:21:01,179 --> 02:20:59,420 have pay-per-view channels and people 3462 02:21:03,130 --> 02:21:01,189 need to get on board with this idea you 3463 02:21:05,620 --> 02:21:03,140 can have wonderful media that's almost 3464 02:21:06,880 --> 02:21:05,630 tailored to your exact needs and if 3465 02:21:08,380 --> 02:21:06,890 you're just willing to pay a little bit 3466 02:21:10,210 --> 02:21:08,390 of money to watch it it'll get better 3467 02:21:12,370 --> 02:21:10,220 and better and better and that's what 3468 02:21:14,439 --> 02:21:12,380 we're doing with evolve TV but do you 3469 02:21:15,939 --> 02:21:14,449 replace the TV networks and the cable 3470 02:21:18,099 --> 02:21:15,949 networks with that or is that something 3471 02:21:20,740 --> 02:21:18,109 that will happen 20 years from now or 3472 02:21:22,570 --> 02:21:20,750 will you just change them it's already 3473 02:21:24,610 --> 02:21:22,580 changing it's already changing and and 3474 02:21:26,139 --> 02:21:24,620 if you go to Ronald James television 3475 02:21:27,910 --> 02:21:26,149 calm and there's nothing on the website 3476 02:21:29,410 --> 02:21:27,920 I'm not trying to promote it but I left 3477 02:21:31,570 --> 02:21:29,420 it up there because it was my very first 3478 02:21:33,099 --> 02:21:31,580 website when I got into the video 3479 02:21:35,019 --> 02:21:33,109 business and there's a thing on there 3480 02:21:36,130 --> 02:21:35,029 that I where I said that the future of 3481 02:21:38,050 --> 02:21:36,140 television is more 3482 02:21:40,210 --> 02:21:38,060 specialized program for lesser but more 3483 02:21:43,540 --> 02:21:40,220 loyal audiences and what I mean by that 3484 02:21:46,090 --> 02:21:43,550 is that as the ability to deliver media 3485 02:21:47,800 --> 02:21:46,100 gets increases in the people in charge 3486 02:21:51,519 --> 02:21:47,810 of it decrease in the cost of producing 3487 02:21:53,530 --> 02:21:51,529 it gets less and less then your personal 3488 02:21:55,630 --> 02:21:53,540 tastes are going to be catered to in 3489 02:21:57,189 --> 02:21:55,640 unprecedented ways if you want to learn 3490 02:21:59,290 --> 02:21:57,199 how to build an ultra-light airplane 3491 02:22:00,939 --> 02:21:59,300 you're gonna be able to go watch a whole 3492 02:22:02,260 --> 02:22:00,949 show about building an ultralight 3493 02:22:03,760 --> 02:22:02,270 airplane if you want to know how to skin 3494 02:22:05,530 --> 02:22:03,770 a red snapper after a day of fishing 3495 02:22:08,320 --> 02:22:05,540 there's gonna be a fishing show that'll 3496 02:22:11,380 --> 02:22:08,330 teach you that and the quality of that 3497 02:22:14,380 --> 02:22:11,390 stuff will get better if the industry 3498 02:22:17,559 --> 02:22:14,390 figures out how to monetize it and the 3499 02:22:18,910 --> 02:22:17,569 need for it will expand and pretty soon 3500 02:22:20,769 --> 02:22:18,920 these these channels that are doing all 3501 02:22:23,139 --> 02:22:20,779 this mainstream stuff you're always 3502 02:22:24,460 --> 02:22:23,149 going to have mainstream but more and 3503 02:22:26,290 --> 02:22:24,470 more people are paying attention to more 3504 02:22:28,059 --> 02:22:26,300 and more specialized media and so we 3505 02:22:30,250 --> 02:22:28,069 just need to encourage that market and 3506 02:22:31,510 --> 02:22:30,260 we need to encourage that revolution and 3507 02:22:33,250 --> 02:22:31,520 we need to do it in such a way that 3508 02:22:35,260 --> 02:22:33,260 makes it possible to make it better and 3509 02:22:36,849 --> 02:22:35,270 better and so I think that there's room 3510 02:22:39,189 --> 02:22:36,859 for both but I think that the the 3511 02:22:40,599 --> 02:22:39,199 specialized focus stuff if you want to 3512 02:22:42,820 --> 02:22:40,609 see a show about electronic voice 3513 02:22:44,260 --> 02:22:42,830 phenomenon would it be great if you 3514 02:22:46,240 --> 02:22:44,270 could go and just watch four or five 3515 02:22:49,210 --> 02:22:46,250 films just about that that we're all 3516 02:22:51,099 --> 02:22:49,220 really well done and and for every 3517 02:22:53,080 --> 02:22:51,109 interest we're going to widen the next 3518 02:22:54,910 --> 02:22:53,090 segment of the show to talk about the 3519 02:22:57,550 --> 02:22:54,920 things you're working on Ron and maybe 3520 02:22:59,260 --> 02:22:57,560 you're working on them with Chris reveal 3521 02:23:02,639 --> 02:22:59,270 all the secrets right now all the 3522 02:23:05,019 --> 02:23:02,649 spoilers let's start right now we have 3523 02:23:08,050 --> 02:23:05,029 well okay well we're being attacked by 3524 02:23:10,899 --> 02:23:08,060 tricksters let me just get my spray I 3525 02:23:12,939 --> 02:23:10,909 have trickster spray here and I use to 3526 02:23:14,439 --> 02:23:12,949 swat those things down I'm sitting 3527 02:23:15,969 --> 02:23:14,449 across from Chris in front of this mic 3528 02:23:17,620 --> 02:23:15,979 and I have to tell everybody listening 3529 02:23:22,479 --> 02:23:17,630 no matter how frightening that sounded 3530 02:23:24,280 --> 02:23:22,489 it looked far worse I've seen Chris do 3531 02:23:26,290 --> 02:23:24,290 this you know sometimes I sit across the 3532 02:23:27,790 --> 02:23:26,300 mic from him on a rare occasion the most 3533 02:23:28,960 --> 02:23:27,800 recent time though I put him in the 3534 02:23:31,630 --> 02:23:28,970 other room with the dog 3535 02:23:34,120 --> 02:23:31,640 well somebody mentioned on the forum at 3536 02:23:35,769 --> 02:23:34,130 forum dr. Peres cast calm that they 3537 02:23:38,170 --> 02:23:35,779 missed my trickster voice and I hadn't 3538 02:23:40,360 --> 02:23:38,180 done it in so long they didn't even 3539 02:23:45,160 --> 02:23:40,370 remember the last time so that was for 3540 02:23:46,809 --> 02:23:45,170 you okay this voice is for you you know 3541 02:23:48,429 --> 02:23:46,819 I was thinking here too we'll start 3542 02:23:50,011 --> 02:23:48,439 collecting blood why they're suing you 3543 02:23:53,410 --> 02:23:50,021 for copyright 3544 02:23:56,370 --> 02:23:53,420 LEM get in line you know what we could 3545 02:23:59,500 --> 02:23:56,380 do is maybe have a collection of 3546 02:24:02,380 --> 02:23:59,510 particular guests doing the power cast 3547 02:24:04,330 --> 02:24:02,390 and just play with a power cast with 3548 02:24:06,100 --> 02:24:04,340 different voices and see what people 3549 02:24:07,960 --> 02:24:06,110 like the best and use that for the show 3550 02:24:09,850 --> 02:24:07,970 hey let people let people in the 3551 02:24:11,980 --> 02:24:09,860 audience do open auditions I'll give 3552 02:24:14,520 --> 02:24:11,990 away a free month to evolve TV for the 3553 02:24:17,350 --> 02:24:14,530 winter with the best thought have a cast 3554 02:24:23,870 --> 02:24:17,360 you know what that wasn't bad with Gene 3555 02:24:23,880 --> 02:24:28,640 [Music] 3556 02:24:34,940 --> 02:24:31,761 the GZ and Radio Network providing the 3557 02:24:39,620 --> 02:24:34,950 world with hard-hitting talk radio G C 3558 02:24:41,960 --> 02:24:39,630 and great talk radio starts here if you 3559 02:24:44,450 --> 02:24:41,970 want to get your website online and you 3560 02:24:46,400 --> 02:24:44,460 need reliable service first-class 3561 02:24:48,290 --> 02:24:46,410 service at the lowest possible price 3562 02:24:50,030 --> 02:24:48,300 there's only one place to go 3563 02:24:52,370 --> 02:24:50,040 well dream house has a special promotion 3564 02:24:55,750 --> 02:24:52,380 with our show where they'll 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02:28:17,630 --> 02:28:15,720 Ali Ben has Alison and spray liquid and 3650 02:28:20,150 --> 02:28:17,640 cream forms with 3 times more strength 3651 02:28:24,980 --> 02:28:20,160 than leading brands and cost less go to 3652 02:28:27,800 --> 02:28:24,990 Ali - c-calm spelled al li - see calm or 3653 02:28:30,139 --> 02:28:27,810 call 855 Alison that's eight five five 3654 02:28:32,450 --> 02:28:30,149 two five five four two four six that's 3655 02:28:34,910 --> 02:28:32,460 eight fifty five to fifty five forty to 3656 02:28:36,740 --> 02:28:34,920 forty six protect yourself with Ali see 3657 02:28:56,809 --> 02:28:36,750 and Ali ban from affinity health 3658 02:29:11,660 --> 02:28:56,819 products at Ali - see calm no phlegm 3659 02:29:15,020 --> 02:29:11,670 involved people think the shows going to 3660 02:29:16,550 --> 02:29:15,030 the dogs and they're right we have Ron 3661 02:29:18,429 --> 02:29:16,560 James joining us with gene and Chris 3662 02:29:21,320 --> 02:29:18,439 we're trying to see who does the best 3663 02:29:24,500 --> 02:29:21,330 voice of the power cast notice I never 3664 02:29:27,170 --> 02:29:24,510 do it I will never do it I think it's 3665 02:29:29,150 --> 02:29:27,180 better if other people do it speaking of 3666 02:29:33,020 --> 02:29:29,160 other projects Ron what are you working 3667 02:29:34,849 --> 02:29:33,030 on in the near future wow it's a lot you 3668 02:29:37,010 --> 02:29:34,859 know as part of my evolve TV business 3669 02:29:39,500 --> 02:29:37,020 model we are developing our own original 3670 02:29:41,210 --> 02:29:39,510 shows so we have six of them in the 3671 02:29:43,639 --> 02:29:41,220 works right now one of them is called 3672 02:29:48,260 --> 02:29:43,649 the biggest dreamer where we are going 3673 02:29:50,090 --> 02:29:48,270 to follow people as they try to improve 3674 02:29:51,860 --> 02:29:50,100 their lives by changing their inner 3675 02:29:56,270 --> 02:29:51,870 belief systems this is like The 3676 02:29:59,120 --> 02:29:56,280 Apprentice Meets The Secret it's um it's 3677 02:30:01,099 --> 02:29:59,130 teaching people that in order to create 3678 02:30:03,410 --> 02:30:01,109 change on the outside they have to 3679 02:30:04,700 --> 02:30:03,420 change on the inside and we use you know 3680 02:30:07,190 --> 02:30:04,710 different people with different types of 3681 02:30:08,599 --> 02:30:07,200 issues and basically teach them to 3682 02:30:10,309 --> 02:30:08,609 manifest it's about creating your own 3683 02:30:13,610 --> 02:30:10,319 reality so it's it's kind of a very 3684 02:30:14,990 --> 02:30:13,620 cutting edge reality show that is it's 3685 02:30:17,570 --> 02:30:15,000 an example of what we're what we're 3686 02:30:22,160 --> 02:30:17,580 choosing to do and and what that is is 3687 02:30:24,680 --> 02:30:22,170 take models of programming that we know 3688 02:30:26,301 --> 02:30:24,690 work and inject them with 3689 02:30:28,460 --> 02:30:26,311 of conscious educational and 3690 02:30:30,110 --> 02:30:28,470 transformational messages so that's one 3691 02:30:31,670 --> 02:30:30,120 we're doing another one that's really 3692 02:30:34,490 --> 02:30:31,680 exciting to me about alternative 3693 02:30:37,341 --> 02:30:34,500 agriculture I'm involved with vertical 3694 02:30:40,580 --> 02:30:37,351 gardening and it's a whole new 3695 02:30:42,591 --> 02:30:40,590 technology for growing food that is it 3696 02:30:44,540 --> 02:30:42,601 uses hardly it uses ten percent of the 3697 02:30:47,240 --> 02:30:44,550 water grows three times as much food per 3698 02:30:49,070 --> 02:30:47,250 square foot and is it you can do it 3699 02:30:51,080 --> 02:30:49,080 anywhere and so I honestly believe that 3700 02:30:53,750 --> 02:30:51,090 this is the way out of the GMO 3701 02:30:55,280 --> 02:30:53,760 revolution it is the way to solve the 3702 02:30:57,530 --> 02:30:55,290 world's hunger problem so we're making a 3703 02:30:59,301 --> 02:30:57,540 show about that we're making a show 3704 02:31:01,820 --> 02:30:59,311 called quantum paranormal which is all 3705 02:31:04,430 --> 02:31:01,830 about scientific explanations that are 3706 02:31:06,381 --> 02:31:04,440 arising for a paranormal activity we're 3707 02:31:10,370 --> 02:31:06,391 making another show with Nick Delgado 3708 02:31:13,280 --> 02:31:10,380 about the cutting-edge advances in 3709 02:31:14,480 --> 02:31:13,290 nutrition and preserving youth and a few 3710 02:31:16,700 --> 02:31:14,490 more you can read about them on the 3711 02:31:18,170 --> 02:31:16,710 website and then Chris and I have been 3712 02:31:20,330 --> 02:31:18,180 shooting paranormal stuff for a really 3713 02:31:22,881 --> 02:31:20,340 long time and we've just got this 3714 02:31:25,820 --> 02:31:22,891 archive of material that's never been 3715 02:31:27,290 --> 02:31:25,830 released so while Chris is here we're 3716 02:31:30,051 --> 02:31:27,300 going through everything and putting 3717 02:31:32,120 --> 02:31:30,061 together it's gonna be a film I haven't 3718 02:31:34,761 --> 02:31:32,130 decided what to call it yet it's gonna 3719 02:31:37,310 --> 02:31:34,771 be something that basically tells these 3720 02:31:39,350 --> 02:31:37,320 little vignettes stories we've got guys 3721 02:31:41,600 --> 02:31:39,360 getting scratched by ghosts where you 3722 02:31:43,551 --> 02:31:41,610 see the wounds we've got a me April 3723 02:31:45,591 --> 02:31:43,561 Allen the star the dead files and some 3724 02:31:49,160 --> 02:31:45,601 of her early work just doing some 3725 02:31:52,040 --> 02:31:49,170 unbelievable psychic mediumship and just 3726 02:31:55,220 --> 02:31:52,050 a host of stuff very interesting 3727 02:31:57,920 --> 02:31:55,230 skinwalker stories Bigfoot stories some 3728 02:31:59,930 --> 02:31:57,930 more EVP stuff so we've got enough 3729 02:32:01,881 --> 02:31:59,940 paranormal related material that's 3730 02:32:04,580 --> 02:32:01,891 already in the can already edited that 3731 02:32:05,870 --> 02:32:04,590 really needs to get out so I haven't 3732 02:32:07,881 --> 02:32:05,880 decided how we're gonna release it yet 3733 02:32:11,301 --> 02:32:07,891 it's either gonna be a film available on 3734 02:32:13,190 --> 02:32:11,311 evolve TV or a show available on evolve 3735 02:32:15,440 --> 02:32:13,200 TV I'm pretty much at the point in my 3736 02:32:17,150 --> 02:32:15,450 life now where everything I create I'm 3737 02:32:19,250 --> 02:32:17,160 gonna put on my station and anybody in 3738 02:32:20,780 --> 02:32:19,260 the world could watch it so if we're 3739 02:32:22,490 --> 02:32:20,790 just gonna expand that and I invite 3740 02:32:25,030 --> 02:32:22,500 other filmmakers if you've got content 3741 02:32:28,520 --> 02:32:25,040 talked to me about being on evolve TV 3742 02:32:30,620 --> 02:32:28,530 because it truly is it's a turnkey 3743 02:32:32,690 --> 02:32:30,630 system for all of you and it's all about 3744 02:32:34,160 --> 02:32:32,700 putting you first the filmmakers and 3745 02:32:36,950 --> 02:32:34,170 letting you connect with your audience 3746 02:32:37,610 --> 02:32:36,960 so that's what it's all about so we have 3747 02:32:39,530 --> 02:32:37,620 a boat 3748 02:32:41,660 --> 02:32:39,540 productions I'm certainly not sitting 3749 02:32:43,130 --> 02:32:41,670 still chris is out here helping with 3750 02:32:44,841 --> 02:32:43,140 stuff that we've had in the pipeline for 3751 02:32:46,880 --> 02:32:44,851 a really long time so it's gonna be 3752 02:32:49,850 --> 02:32:46,890 great Chris of course you went out there 3753 02:32:53,180 --> 02:32:49,860 to do some stuff not just enjoy the 3754 02:32:55,070 --> 02:32:53,190 beach and attend UFO meetings so why do 3755 02:32:58,250 --> 02:32:55,080 projects are you working on with Ron 3756 02:32:59,810 --> 02:32:58,260 well right now of course as Ron 3757 02:33:03,380 --> 02:32:59,820 mentioned we are going through some of 3758 02:33:06,470 --> 02:33:03,390 these past in the in the can projects 3759 02:33:09,710 --> 02:33:06,480 that we have and reformatting them based 3760 02:33:12,530 --> 02:33:09,720 on the kind of an model that we see also 3761 02:33:14,990 --> 02:33:12,540 obviously stocking the herd as is moving 3762 02:33:17,841 --> 02:33:15,000 ahead and leaps and bounds I'm about a 3763 02:33:19,910 --> 02:33:17,851 third figure about a third done with the 3764 02:33:20,960 --> 02:33:19,920 with the book that will be out here at 3765 02:33:24,170 --> 02:33:20,970 the end of the summer beginning in the 3766 02:33:25,910 --> 02:33:24,180 fall which will be hopefully considered 3767 02:33:28,430 --> 02:33:25,920 the definitive look and most 3768 02:33:29,930 --> 02:33:28,440 comprehensive look an objective look at 3769 02:33:32,330 --> 02:33:29,940 the unexplained livestock death 3770 02:33:34,880 --> 02:33:32,340 phenomenon and also it's going to 3771 02:33:36,830 --> 02:33:34,890 address human kinds you know incestuous 3772 02:33:39,500 --> 02:33:36,840 relationship with cattle and livestock 3773 02:33:42,740 --> 02:33:39,510 and this wouldn't be it's crammed full 3774 02:33:45,620 --> 02:33:42,750 of just mind-warping information and and 3775 02:33:48,261 --> 02:33:45,630 and a blow-by-blow examination and 3776 02:33:51,650 --> 02:33:48,271 unraveling of how the cattle mutilation 3777 02:33:53,750 --> 02:33:51,660 phenomenon got first got started and how 3778 02:33:56,630 --> 02:33:53,760 it unfolded during the 70's and 3779 02:34:00,530 --> 02:33:56,640 continues to do today it sounds like a 3780 02:34:03,080 --> 02:34:00,540 big task a huge task huge well we could 3781 02:34:04,670 --> 02:34:03,090 use a few definitive pieces of coverage 3782 02:34:07,670 --> 02:34:04,680 there because not all the coverage about 3783 02:34:11,690 --> 02:34:07,680 cattle mutilation has really been very 3784 02:34:16,120 --> 02:34:11,700 good about you think well it's it's it's 3785 02:34:20,240 --> 02:34:16,130 been dominated by you know preconceived 3786 02:34:22,040 --> 02:34:20,250 thinking people tend to go into many 3787 02:34:23,450 --> 02:34:22,050 paranormal subjects with their minds 3788 02:34:25,190 --> 02:34:23,460 already made up and then they run around 3789 02:34:27,530 --> 02:34:25,200 looking for the data to support their 3790 02:34:29,360 --> 02:34:27,540 foregone conclusions so I'm attempting 3791 02:34:31,820 --> 02:34:29,370 to be as brutally objective about this 3792 02:34:35,150 --> 02:34:31,830 whole mystery as is humanly possible and 3793 02:34:37,100 --> 02:34:35,160 really examine it and allow the the top 3794 02:34:39,230 --> 02:34:37,110 people in the field to to state their 3795 02:34:40,880 --> 02:34:39,240 case I have a series of interviews that 3796 02:34:42,290 --> 02:34:40,890 I'm doing with some of the people that 3797 02:34:44,450 --> 02:34:42,300 have been involved over the years and 3798 02:34:46,940 --> 02:34:44,460 this investigating this and researching 3799 02:34:49,730 --> 02:34:46,950 this mystery and I want everybody to get 3800 02:34:50,230 --> 02:34:49,740 their chance to to throw out their best 3801 02:34:52,660 --> 02:34:50,240 argue 3802 02:34:54,490 --> 02:34:52,670 about what they think is is involved in 3803 02:34:56,800 --> 02:34:54,500 this and why and who the perpetrators 3804 02:34:58,180 --> 02:34:56,810 are and what the possible agendas are so 3805 02:35:00,100 --> 02:34:58,190 this is going to be a pretty 3806 02:35:01,540 --> 02:35:00,110 comprehensive objective look it's 3807 02:35:03,340 --> 02:35:01,550 something that really does not get the 3808 02:35:05,770 --> 02:35:03,350 kind of attention I think it deserves I 3809 02:35:08,230 --> 02:35:05,780 mean we have the capacity right now in 3810 02:35:12,430 --> 02:35:08,240 this country to to slaughter render and 3811 02:35:15,480 --> 02:35:12,440 and process you know upwards of a 3812 02:35:18,730 --> 02:35:15,490 thousand twelve hundred animals an hour 3813 02:35:21,790 --> 02:35:18,740 and so we're mutilating a lot of cattle 3814 02:35:23,650 --> 02:35:21,800 as we speak and I think it's important 3815 02:35:25,780 --> 02:35:23,660 for people to understand that beef 3816 02:35:28,000 --> 02:35:25,790 cannot continue for long as a protein 3817 02:35:30,790 --> 02:35:28,010 source cattle cattle herds are 3818 02:35:32,820 --> 02:35:30,800 devastating the planet probably the 3819 02:35:36,040 --> 02:35:32,830 second leading cause of planetary 3820 02:35:39,219 --> 02:35:36,050 degradation second only to humans and 3821 02:35:41,530 --> 02:35:39,229 this is a real dark horse kind of 3822 02:35:44,650 --> 02:35:41,540 gorilla in the closet type subject that 3823 02:35:47,230 --> 02:35:44,660 I really hope people are going to read 3824 02:35:49,510 --> 02:35:47,240 this book and and wake up a little all 3825 02:35:54,250 --> 02:35:49,520 right well is this also a pitch not to 3826 02:35:55,480 --> 02:35:54,260 eat meat anymore no not at all no okay 3827 02:35:57,430 --> 02:35:55,490 so how do you deal with a very 3828 02:36:00,400 --> 02:35:57,440 responsible environmentally sensitive 3829 02:36:02,920 --> 02:36:00,410 way well I think number one people need 3830 02:36:05,080 --> 02:36:02,930 to be educated I think for instance to 3831 02:36:06,480 --> 02:36:05,090 get it to drive a car you have to get a 3832 02:36:09,670 --> 02:36:06,490 license you have to go through a 3833 02:36:11,500 --> 02:36:09,680 training and and and become licensed to 3834 02:36:13,060 --> 02:36:11,510 have the privilege of driving on the 3835 02:36:15,490 --> 02:36:13,070 roads I think meat-eating should be a 3836 02:36:17,350 --> 02:36:15,500 privilege and I think everyone who wants 3837 02:36:19,870 --> 02:36:17,360 to eat meat has to go through a 3-day 3838 02:36:22,719 --> 02:36:19,880 course that shows them the exact process 3839 02:36:25,120 --> 02:36:22,729 that it takes for that meat to be raised 3840 02:36:27,370 --> 02:36:25,130 to be rendered slaughtered rendered 3841 02:36:29,290 --> 02:36:27,380 packaged and presented to you and 3842 02:36:31,060 --> 02:36:29,300 everything that goes on in the process 3843 02:36:33,640 --> 02:36:31,070 and I'll bet you if you had to be 3844 02:36:35,290 --> 02:36:33,650 licensed to eat meat 50% of the of the 3845 02:36:38,530 --> 02:36:35,300 population immediately would become 3846 02:36:40,840 --> 02:36:38,540 vegetarian if you had any idea of what 3847 02:36:43,480 --> 02:36:40,850 it takes to get that piece of meat 3848 02:36:45,730 --> 02:36:43,490 underneath that piece of plastic wrap in 3849 02:36:47,380 --> 02:36:45,740 your supermarket if you had any idea of 3850 02:36:49,660 --> 02:36:47,390 that process I'll bet you think twice 3851 02:36:51,670 --> 02:36:49,670 every time you've fired up that grill 3852 02:36:53,980 --> 02:36:51,680 are you saying even with sustainable 3853 02:36:56,650 --> 02:36:53,990 ways of farming and and with you know 3854 02:36:59,200 --> 02:36:56,660 free-range grass-fed no hormone it's 3855 02:37:02,540 --> 02:36:59,210 still it should all be in there and when 3856 02:37:06,229 --> 02:37:02,550 I when I eat meat which I don't very 3857 02:37:09,019 --> 02:37:06,239 anymore I do try to stay away from it if 3858 02:37:10,429 --> 02:37:09,029 it's possible and when it's possible I'm 3859 02:37:14,840 --> 02:37:10,439 very conscious and aware of what I'm 3860 02:37:17,240 --> 02:37:14,850 doing and I it's you know again there 3861 02:37:19,790 --> 02:37:17,250 are proper ways to do things cattle are 3862 02:37:21,349 --> 02:37:19,800 only really detrimental to the 3863 02:37:22,939 --> 02:37:21,359 environment when they stay in one place 3864 02:37:24,319 --> 02:37:22,949 if we could somehow move cattle around 3865 02:37:26,660 --> 02:37:24,329 they're actually very good for the 3866 02:37:30,439 --> 02:37:26,670 environment if they're on the move and 3867 02:37:33,530 --> 02:37:30,449 there are sustainability issues that 3868 02:37:35,899 --> 02:37:33,540 need to be addressed with the one point 3869 02:37:37,399 --> 02:37:35,909 three seven billion cattle on the planet 3870 02:37:40,689 --> 02:37:37,409 you know this is a very complicated 3871 02:37:43,309 --> 02:37:40,699 subject and and it it deserves much more 3872 02:37:45,530 --> 02:37:43,319 attention in education than it's 3873 02:37:47,599 --> 02:37:45,540 receiving well I want to ask about 3874 02:37:50,090 --> 02:37:47,609 chicken because I think those comments 3875 02:37:51,710 --> 02:37:50,100 will get plucked from this episode Ron 3876 02:37:54,080 --> 02:37:51,720 James tell our listeners where they can 3877 02:37:57,530 --> 02:37:54,090 find more of your stuff well I've taken 3878 02:37:59,719 --> 02:37:57,540 basically my entire video catalog and 3879 02:38:01,760 --> 02:37:59,729 put it all on my network and the work of 3880 02:38:05,090 --> 02:38:01,770 other people as well and that's evolved 3881 02:38:07,219 --> 02:38:05,100 tv.com it sounds easy but it's just like 3882 02:38:10,819 --> 02:38:07,229 the word evolve only replace it with an 3883 02:38:13,969 --> 02:38:10,829 i' and then the letters tv.com so it's 3884 02:38:15,859 --> 02:38:13,979 evolved tv.com and it's a pay-per-view 3885 02:38:18,620 --> 02:38:15,869 channel you can watch whatever you want 3886 02:38:20,269 --> 02:38:18,630 for very reasonable prices and support 3887 02:38:22,729 --> 02:38:20,279 the filmmakers that make it possible and 3888 02:38:24,349 --> 02:38:22,739 go sign up for our email list and let us 3889 02:38:27,530 --> 02:38:24,359 keep you posted on what's happening as 3890 02:38:29,479 --> 02:38:27,540 we evolve the future of the television 3891 02:38:31,729 --> 02:38:29,489 network and Chris can be found at our 3892 02:38:33,710 --> 02:38:31,739 strange planet com that's our strange 3893 02:38:36,530 --> 02:38:33,720 planet com you can find us on Twitter 3894 02:38:38,330 --> 02:38:36,540 where we are known as the para cast you 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